Loneliness and God

[GraceBro]

Are you saying you're a modalist? That's the impression I have.

No, I am not a modalist, lol. Christians and our labels. We can't talk to each other without putting ourselves in a box first. As I said, I don't believe in three gods like many Christians imply with the way they describe the Trinity. When I get to heaven, I don't expect to see Jesus on the left, an Old Man (i.e. the Father) in the middle, and a cloud or mist (the Holy Spirit) on the right. That's the impression I get from some people when they talk about the Trinity. And as I also said earlier, I do believe God experiences loneliness, since that is the topic of this thread. Otherwise, how could He "empathize with our weaknesses (Hebrews 4:15)?" Grace and Peace.

 

[GraceBro]

God isn't the way GraceBro describes Him. He is Triune.

Please don't put words in my mouth as a way to bolster your own beliefs. I didn't say God wasn't Triune. If what you believe has any merit it will stand on its own without having to put someone else down through strawman arguments. @methodsofdance is smart enough to do her research and allow God to answer her questions and discern truth from error.

 

[Jamdoc]

No, I am not a modalist, lol. Christians and our labels. We can't talk to each other without putting ourselves in a box first. As I said, I don't believe in three gods like many Christians imply with the way they describe the Trinity. When I get to heaven, I don't expect to see Jesus on the left, an Old Man (i.e. the Father) in the middle, and a cloud or mist (the Holy Spirit) on the right. That's the impression I get from some people when they talk about the Trinity. And as I also said earlier, I do believe God experiences loneliness, since that is the topic of this thread. Otherwise, how could He "empathize with our weaknesses (Hebrews 4:15)?" Grace and Peace.

God experienced loneliness as Jesus. Normally He and the Father are one, the Father in Him and He in the Father.
But on the Cross the Father forsook the Son because the Son took on all of our sin. So He knew a loneliness beyond what we can even experience.
But, in their communion with each other, the Son, the Father, and the Holy Ghost are not lonely, they have in themselves community, community that is intimate with each other in ways we cannot understand.
So God experienced Loneliness, but does not regularly experience it.

 

[Rescued One]

No, I am not a modalist, lol. Christians and our labels. We can't talk to each other without putting ourselves in a box first. As I said, I don't believe in three gods like many Christians imply with the way they describe the Trinity. When I get to heaven, I don't expect to see Jesus on the left, an Old Man (i.e. the Father) in the middle, and a cloud or mist (the Holy Spirit) on the right. That's the impression I get from some people when they talk about the Trinity. And as I also said earlier, I do believe God experiences loneliness, since that is the topic of this thread. Otherwise, how could He "empathize with our weaknesses (Hebrews 4:15)?" Grace and Peace.

Modalists don't believe in three gods. Neither do Trinitarians. The beliefs you describe are called modalism even if you don't like that word. Very few Evangelicals know how to talk about the Trinity or even know what modalism is. Words have definitions so we can understand each other.

Are you aware that this site is Trinitarian? IOW, you shouldn't list yourself as Christian if you aren't a Trinitarian.

 

[Rescued One]

Please don't put words in my mouth as a way to bolster your own beliefs. I didn't say God wasn't Triune. If what you believe has any merit it will stand on its own without having to put someone else down through strawman arguments. @methodsofdance is smart enough to do her research and allow God to answer her questions and discern truth from error.

I didn't put words in your mouth or try to tell anyone what you said. But you openly reject my God. I'm not any better than anyone here. Have you ever heard of teachers? They explain things to others. That doesn't mean that the person learning is stupid. Au contraire. I would never explain modalism to a five-year-old!

Disagreeing with you is not putting you down. Why are you offended?

 

[Psalm 27]

70th week of Daniel
I believe I will either die for the Word of God and Testimony of Jesus Christ, or see Him coming in the clouds with power and great glory. Either way.. with my track record, I'd be having to leave any family I make here behind, and it is possible that the Lord did not want me to have a family that would make me choose them over Him.
God forbid Jeremiah from marrying or having children because God did not want Jeremiah to see his family suffer during the fall of Jerusalem. He spared Jeremiah that pain. The only real drawback is that in heaven and in the resurrection, He also would never be able to have his own family, no sons and daughters.
That is what I lament about it all. if this was just a temporary thing.. I'd bear with it a lot better. It's the "never" part that gets me.

Or at the very least, Apophis impact event though I think that is in itself, connected to the 70th week and wrath of God.
Close flyby in 2029
Possible impact in 2036

Have you seen the movie ‘Greenland’, watched it the other day.

 

[Jamdoc]

Have you seen the movie ‘Greenland’, watched it the other day.

No, I haven't though I know my mom would love it.. she likes disaster films like that.
What I'm talking about is a real asteroid that is being watched.

Astronomers update the impact risk from Asteroid Apophis | EarthSky.org

Looks like updated data has ruled out collision in 2036, last time I had checked awhile back there was a small chance of it entering a 1km wide keyhole that would put it on collision course for 2036. Now there's a slim chanse of impact in 2068

 

[Psalm 27]

No, I haven't though I know my mom would love it.. she likes disaster films like that.
What I'm talking about is a real asteroid that is being watched.

Astronomers update the impact risk from Asteroid Apophis | EarthSky.org

Looks like updated data has ruled out collision in 2036, last time I had checked awhile back there was a small chance of it entering a 1km wide keyhole that would put it on collision course for 2036. Now there's a slim chanse of impact in 2068

 

[Joyous Song]

Thank you for the answer. Building the relationship with God feels almost impossible now..I feel like he left me or doesn't care about me and I just can't stand that feeling.

One other piece I can add comes from my husband. After he spent years in bad relationship that left him immobilized and deeply hurt. He decided he'd make himself right with G-d and worked to build that relationship.

He run through a local park out here praying as he ran wearing himself out to settle his troubled mind and in time he found not only peace but for a time could even hear the L-rd speaking to him.

This faith so strong built during suffering and trail is what led to us meeting. It a story in itself but too long for this post. Still his example might help you as well.

 

[methodsofdance]

One other piece I can add comes from my husband. After he spent years in bad relationship that left him immobilized and deeply hurt. He decided he'd make himself right with G-d and worked to build that relationship.

He run through a local park out here praying as he ran wearing himself out to settle his troubled mind and in time he found not only peace but for a time could even hear the L-rd speaking to him.

This faith so strong built during suffering and trail is what led to us meeting. It a story in itself but too long for this post. Still his example might help you as well.

Thank you for that. I need to find out and feel what God love and care mean in my life and find any optimism, otherwise it doesn't make much sense to believe. I would really like to trust God, and I would really like to enjoy going to church and praying. I just need that optimism.

 

[Love Others]

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[methodsofdance]

Dear Beautiful Soul

I empathize with you and what you are going through. I have asked myself the same questions and I don't think that it's a case of God not caring or listening. I believe it's rather that He does care, because if the right person is not ready for you yet, why give you someone who is wrong for you and let you miss out on your true love? And the same goes for you. For example, there might be some kind of lesson in life that you need in order to deal with something you and your true love will be facing together, and without that knowledge you won't know how to deal with it.

God knows the end from the beginning and He knows exactly what your path looks like. When He said to Abraham and Sarah that they were going to have a child (Isaac), who would become a great nation through his son, Jacob (Israel), God took very long to fulfill this promise, and so Abraham and Sarah became impatient and lost faith in God's promise, thinking they were getting too old to have the promised child, so they went their own way and Abraham had a child with someone else which caused problems for them because they were impatient. In the end, God did give them the child He promised. God's timing is not our timing, and it does hurt to have to wait, but we must trust that there is a reason for His timing too.

While you are waiting for God to bring the right person into your life, focus on self-development so that you can be exactly what she needs. Learn as much as you can, keep yourself fit, eat healthy, learn about the needs of a woman and how they think. Develop cooking skills (if you haven't already), so you can make her some amazing meals. Read the Bible so that you can be a spiritual pillar in her life. And when the time is right, I'm sure God will bring her to you.

Thank you for your answer a lot. I think self-development is really important as you said, I have changed massively in the past two years and I'm still trying to be a better person everyday, but I also don't think there is ever a good time to be alone, whether you're slim or fat, whether you can cook something or not. That thought makes me doubt in any sort of God's plan for me. I just don't have any optimism that I will find the right person, because that could have happened for so many years but it didn't. And that fear is the natural outcome of my loneliness and God knows about it, so what is the purpose of all that?

 

[Love Others]

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[methodsofdance]

Dear Methodsofdance

I can see that you have a deep soul, in the words you write, and even in your username. I believe you have something special to offer to the right person. Your loneliness is a deep wound in your heart, I can see that. We can't know the reason why we have to wait for things but we can trust the process.

I'm doing my best to believe but it's such a dark time for me now. I feel like I'm tested to my limits. Everyday is miserable and I don't have energy to do anything at this point. Very depressing.

 

[SANTOSO]

I'm doing my best to believe but it's such a dark time for me now. I feel like I'm tested to my limits. Everyday is miserable and I don't have energy to do anything at this point. Very depressing.

Dear one,
When you felt miserable, fainting, and depressed ! Wasn’t something weighing you down ? That was a evil spirit of heaviness. Rebuke that spirit of heaviness in the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Don’t dwell there with that evil spirit. Don’t be led to doubt and confusion. Evil spirit also invites members of their gang, that is, evil spirit of doubt and confusion. So dear one, resist the enemies.

If you are lonely, seek the Lord’s compassion.

This is what we have heard:
And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction. -Matthew 9:35

When He saw the crowds, He had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. -Matthew 9:36

So dear one, let the Lord shepherd your soul.
You don’t have to live a life of struggles - like being lonely ! No !

Just yield to the Lord !
For this, yield to the Lord’s compassion, that is, His way.

For this is what we have heard how He shepherd us :
Good and upright is the LORD; therefore He instructs sinners in the way. -Psalms 25:8
He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble His way. -Psalms 25:9
All the paths of the LORD are steadfast love and faithfulness, for those who keep His covenant and His instructions. -Psalms 25:10

 

[Love Others]

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[methodsofdance]

Dear one,
When you felt miserable, fainting, and depressed ! Wasn’t something weighing you down ? That was a evil spirit of heaviness. Rebuke that spirit of heaviness in the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Don’t dwell there with that evil spirit. Don’t be led to doubt and confusion. Evil spirit also invites members of their gang, that is, evil spirit of doubt and confusion. So dear one, resist the enemies.

If you are lonely, seek the Lord’s compassion.

This is what we have heard:
And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction. -Matthew 9:35

When He saw the crowds, He had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. -Matthew 9:36

So dear one, let the Lord shepherd your soul.
You don’t have to live a life of struggles - like being lonely ! No !

Just yield to the Lord !
For this, yield to the Lord’s compassion, that is, His way.

For this is what we have heard how He shepherd us :
Good and upright is the LORD; therefore He instructs sinners in the way. -Psalms 25:8
He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble His way. -Psalms 25:9
All the paths of the LORD are steadfast love and faithfulness, for those who keep His covenant and His instructions. -Psalms 25:10

What does yielding for God's compassion mean for you? What do you do exactly to let God come into your weaknesses and pain? I've heard that multiple times but it always sounded like empty words, no particular instruction.

 

[methodsofdance]

I agree with SANTOSO, evil angels can make us feel this way. I will pray for you right now and ask God to help you... I have prayed for you. Maybe you should do a personal investigation to see what else could be making you feel so down. Besides evil angels, there can be other things that lead to depression as well. For example, I suffered from depression for many years and I was very ill. Then I found out that I was gluten intolerant and I once I went on a strict gluten free diet, my inner pain was gone. Food intolerances is just one example of the many possible causes of depression. Our thoughts and underlying beliefs is another possible cause. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is an easy but effective therapy that you can use to help correct beliefs that you are holding on to that could be affecting your thoughts and emotions. For example, if you believe, "God does not care" it will create thoughts that God is the one allowing you to suffer, and it will affect your mood and relationship with Him. Depression must be dealt with in the MIND, BODY and SPIRIT.

I've gone through psychodynamic therapy because of anxiety I had since the age of 6. I think my loneliness was always covered by anxiety, in a way. I also doubt any sort of therapy can solve such problem, it didn't for me at least.

 

[Love Others]

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[methodsofdance]

I hear what you are saying. Therapy on its own didn't help me either. I had social phobia for years because of years of bullying when I was in school, and other abuse too, and it wasn't easy to get over it. I had paranoia and panic attacks and I was in hospital many times for depression. When I got older I developed bipolar and other things too, like obsessive compulsive behaviours, because my nerves were completely shot. It's difficult to explain how I recovered. It was a whole lot of different things that I did that worked together to help me. I worked on my thoughts, physical health and spiritual health simultaneously.

Just like you, all I wanted was love. Lack of love is, after all, the reason for our pain. It's what we were designed to have in its fullness. It's not normal for us to not have love. Our soul needs it. Not only is romantic love lacking, but general love as well. I had to come to terms with the lack of love and connection in this world. I had to make myself strong and able to be happy on my own. Understanding the state of the world helped me a lot. I researched the effects of television, media, and modern entertainment on relationships and I believe it's because these things have taken the place of God (idols above love), that love is so scarce. We have the hope of a new world that God promised He will create and in the new world love will never be lacking. We are living in the end of time. The Bible told us that things will become this way just before Jesus returns.

You deserve someone to love you. You have a positive energy that shines through even though you are feeling negative. There's a genuineness in you. Somewhere on this planet there must be someone with your soul. Your soulmate. I pray that you will find that someone and that you won't have to wait long. Philippians 4:13 says "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Read your Bible and ask God to strengthen you during this lonely time.

Thank you for these words, they mean a lot to me. I meet sensitive or reflective people very rarely, I can't remember last time somebody said something that nice about me. Thank you for all the prayers, I will pray for you as well. I'm asking God for strength everyday and I get just enough to survive the day but I keep feeling down all the time no matter what I do. I'm afraid that God will keep me waiting for long years for the right person and that takes all the trust or will to get closer to Him.