LOL my rant

[dayhiker]

Gee, that amazes me that people could be that inconsiderate.

I've heard of people not being able to say no, so they say yes and then never show. Is that common with your group? Earlier comments sounded like it was the other way, people would commit and then show ...

Well, nomatter what the place, people will be interesting ... LOL

dayhiker

 

[wildthing]

It can go two ways with the one they will commit to and then they will say yes and never show up. It depends on the event. If it is an out reach event they will say yes and not show up. Some of the missions that we work with want to know the amount of people showing up so they can be ready for us. It's a little embrasing to say we will have 20 there and only 7 shows up. if it's party they will show up but then again they might not...

 

[dayhiker]

Amazing ... So its its a local attitude(culture), then the missions must have the same issue with other groups that stop in to help them?

dayhiker

 

[wildthing]

Yeah they do if the groups are from a church with a singles group. What blows my mind is that High School church groups have a better record of show ups. It's to the point that the some of the high school kids are more mature in their walk then say a singles are. What happened there?

Yesterday I just had a meeting with class leadership, I'm part of the leadership team (I plan most of the social events and I have a counter part. My counter part is gal if that was not I would plan most events with a guys in mind) For the past 2-3 years I have seen little spiritual growth. I made a suggestion that perhaps we need to get back to basics, like learning about what and why you believe the stuff that you do and perhaps to be able to answer some easy questions about your faith. But the class has been taught by two guys one is a attorney and the other is psychologist. Attorney does ok with the lessons, we know what is going to talk about a month or two in advances. The psychologist on the other hand we have no idea what the subject is going to be. Usually the subject that the psychogist talks about perhaps belong in a seminar but I question the value as far as my class (in one ear and out the other) But this at this point is not the rub. My counter part who helps plan social events says that she understand all what the pschologist is talk about I on the other hand am slightly clueless (I'm not dumb, I have a masters in History, I have degree in Geology and a minor in Physics) At leadership meeting I suggested that perhaps would should start talking to the level of our class not above it. Boy did I get into trouble on that one. The anwer that I got was that we can't expect the psyclogoist to talk on the level with the average class member. Then I'm thinking that we are just spinning our wheels that we are into Zero Spiritual growth and in so many years we will still be at the same level.

 

[dayhiker]

Very interesting. I've not been apart of a group like yours. So I don't know how to respond.

When you talk about level of presentation. I've said for yeras that most church people have been to college so I used to teach my adult SS classes at at least a Sophmore college level. Even older people seems to enjoy them, as they had been taught at a high school level for so long.

dayhiker

 

[wildthing]

Most of the class has had some college. Few have gone beyond that. Sophmore level is fine with me. It's when we get beyond that we run into problems. Few weeks ago I asked a question to my fellow leadership people What did Dr. Doug talk about last Sunday what I got was blank looks and shurged shoulders. Most of leadership has had some college and most have advance degrees. so they have and idea what was talked about. I looked at them said you all gave me a blank look with that question what do you think the rest will remember?

 

[wildthing]

Rant part two.

This month I planned a beach party, the beach was to be named on Saturday, the day of the party. During the week I was asked many times what beach I was planning on going to. I finally said to the person that was asking that it was the eastern side of the state and that it was on or near Lake Michigan, I like bike lakes. I also said that if the lake has no apeel to ya there is a town a block away.

These are some of reasons that I heard during the week. Some of them are just down right dum.

1) Is it safe. What is the crime rate in the town that we are going to. dose the town have a police force! What is the rate of accident in the town. My answer to this was that in our daliy lives we are face with a certain amount of risk. Nothing is totally safe when dealing with humans.

2) The distance that you are driving is much too far, we are talking about 115 miles according to my Garmin. I can only drive an hour away from home including the time it takes to go to church where we are meeting to carpool. I asked if she got car sick or something? Her answer was no, but daddy would never go on such a long drive without hotel reservations half way there. Oh I see.

3) About shopping in the town. Is there any major realtailers there. I said sorry no majors there but there is alot of really nice stores there. You can get tees and some locally made things too. The reply that I got was that every Saturday she goes to a major Shopping Center and she hates dealing with small town people.

4) I was asked what about what the planns were for the party. I said we are going to this town and we will hang out, There is pier to walk on you can vist a lighthouse, there is habor to look at some boats, there is ton of sail boats, there is the town itself that you can visit with many shops with handcrafted items, some are even art galleries, and there is a maritime museum that can be visited. She then said you know I cannot have a Saturday that isn't sturctured, I can not spend the time relaxing this way, every hour needs to be planned and I need to be in control of what is going on...

5) What time are you leaving for this trip. I said between 8:30 and 9:00. It will take us about 2 1/2 hours to go Lake Michigan. Oh can't you leave say about noon I have another event that I think we shoud go to it starts at 4:00 or so. Everyone who is anyone got the Email for this party last Tuesday. Hmmm! I didn't or did the 2 people that was with me got one. Oh I did get one it was kicked into my Junk mail accout...



But I think the topper of all the reasons that I heard was this one. WT I cannot trust you or for that matter any guy.

No matter we left on Saturday to go to South Haven. When we left it was raining in detroit and that it was going to rain till afternoon. When we got to South haven it was clear and Sunny with a 20 percent chance for rain.

I had one other excuse that I heard that came from a guy and I think it has to be the funnist I ever heard from a someone yet. Aren't you afraid that you might get sand down your swimsuit.

 

[wildthing]

The last post that I just wrote is the death of the singles group that I belong to. On one hand you can count on the people who will do things. The things that I speak of are doing out reaches and doing social things. They are no longer interested in even going out any more they just want to sit and stay home...

It's no longer fun working with this group. They just want to be served.

 

[dayhiker]

People are amazing ...
Maybe its good I'm not trying to lead a group, tho I think about it from time to time.

dayhiker

 

[wildthing]

This last weekend was busy. We had a Tiger game we went to. We had a lot of people there. The out reach person ask if anyone was plan on going to the Woodard car cruise with us. Of crouse we had some that would go. During the Woodard Cruise we had also said that we would be serving dinner at an "Resucue Mission". We had alot of interest in Car show but no interest in doing the dinner. we even had two people called to ask if thay could come out and help but the problem was they called right after we clean up from dinner.