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So, please tell the thread; who thinks it takes goodness to believe. Can you name even 1 person? If not, then you're just pushing a fallacy. Or fantasy.
Let's take the example of Pharaoh as a "vessel of wrath". This man was evil to begin with, he enslaved the Hebrews, and had them mistreated daily. Then he was given multiple opportunities to repent as the plagues progressed. But he continued to harden his heart, until God hardened his heart. So his destruction was not accidental by any means, but by the same token he could have repented had he decided to do so. That was the whole point of bringing down those plagues progressively. Every sinner has multiple opportunities to repent and believe the Gospel. But when a person rejects Christ again and again, there is no more grace and only wrath.
Certainly. Study Saul the persecutor of the Church, and executioner of innocents, who was converted on the road to Damascus. Study the thief on the cross, who was railing against Christ to begin with, and then believed on Him wholeheartedly.
Calvinist ignore the power of God? We are the ones that proclaim that one must be born again. That is supernatural.
You think man is good enough because believing is a good thing. Since this can be done in the flesh (in your view), one doesn't need a new heart in order to believe.
Where does the Bible teach that man receives a new heart by "casting away all his iniquity"?
All human hearts are evil. The Bible says so.
Absolutely NOT. Only God gives a new heart, which is another way to communicate regeneration. Man has no part in regeneration just as man has no part in his salvation. Man can only receive them.
You are not alone in that claim. That is not original with Calvinism. It's Biblical.
Thanks for agreeing with me. Jesus differentiated between those sheep that were His and those that were not His. And He SAID He would die for THE sheep. Not just some of them, as Calvinists think.Of course He referred to some as not His. Not everyone is.
There is no need to try to put false words into my mouth. I have already explained that the issue isn't about "goodness", so your comment is totally disingenuous.
This is correct. One needs a new heart (regeneration, indwelling of the Holy Spirit) in order to fulfill God's will for our lives.
You continue to show that your memory is short. You can't seem to remember all that's said to you, so you take each statement as independent of others. This is probably why you don't understand Calvinism. You certainly don't understand what I've said in the last page or two.
Total fallacy. I DO NOT believe that. And I've posted that a number of times. Your claim of what I believe falls into the category of arrogance to assume that you can read my mind.
Your memory appears to be too short. This has been done. But you'll continue to reject it because you think there's enough goodness in the old heart to submit to God.
When an evil heart believes what God says, then YES, God is pleased.
