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I know what you believe and it is unbiblical. So no thank you.You somehow got the idea that Calvinists think we are special. You would never make that claim if you knew what was taught. I can help you with that, if you'd like. Or you can continue with the straw men.
I just gave it. It is having adoration, reverence that is exclusive to the Creator of the Universe.So what is the proper definition?
Again, a person saying they are Calvinist does not detach them from saying they are of this guy's teachings of which Paul said not to do.Then your issue isn't that we allegedly follow men. We just don't follow the ones you approve of. That's a horse of a different color.
Well, let's see...Exactly what it says. The Scriptures say Christ draws all men unto Himself. Faith is our response to that drawing.
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So you won't read something that actually states what we believe, but you'll make this statement. That's uncharitable.I know what you believe and it is unbiblical. So no thank you.
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And where do you find this particular definition?I just gave it. It is having adoration, reverence that is exclusive to the Creator of the Universe.
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So no matter how many times and different ways I've shown this not to be the case, you are going to continue to just repeat what you erroneously believe. Okay. Not much I can do about that. Hopefully others will be more willing to understand.Again, a person saying they are Calvinist does not detach them from saying they are of this guy's teachings of which Paul said not to do.
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Your answers demonstrate otherwise.No. I am not confused in the least.
Which is why claiming to be a Calvinist or an Arminin isn't biblically acceptable.Doesn't change the Word that says we are not to claim we are of this guy or that guy.
WHich isn't biblical.The teachings from Calvin is why it is called Calvinism. ...
No they don't.Your answers demonstrate otherwise.
Thank you for your opinion.No they don't.
Which is odd because I asked you who else teaches your view of hell and you referenced four different people. I remember Dave Hunt being one. So I guess you're a Huntist.Which is why claiming to be a Calvinist or an Arminin isn't biblically acceptable.
WHich isn't biblical.
Any time.Thank you for your opinion.
No. People can refuse the drawing of God and they ignore the Spirit convicting them of their sin. It is their choice if they accept or reject the Lord. Yes, God can give a person an awakening to the truth (so that they can accept it), but God does not make it so that is the only alternative for them. God still keeps a person's free will choice in effect. God does not over rule a person's free will. If that was the case, then there would be no need to preach the gospel. People would just automatically come to the faith by the drawing of God.Well, let's see...
"we must bring about" = I don't see any explanation of this in your answer here.
"under the drawing of God" = is explained as "Christ draws all men unto Himself."
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If "we must bring about" means "Faith is our response," the only way that makes sense is to argue that every person responds to the call and becomes a believer, i.e. has Faith. I know of almost no one but you who thinks that's the case.
Again, go to blueletterbible.org and do a keyword search on the word "worship." There you will see the word "worship" and how it is used in the Bible by looking at the context.And where do you find this particular definition?
There's nowhere in scripture that says one can refuse to be dragged. It does, however, state what happens to those dragged by God.No. People can refuse the drawing of God and they ignore the Spirit convicting them of their sin. It is their choice if they accept or reject the Lord. Yes, God can give a person an awakening to the truth (so that they can accept it), but God does not make it so that is the only alternative for them. God still keeps a person's free will choice in effect. God does not over rule a person's free will. If that was the case, then there would be no need to preach the gospel. People would just automatically come to the faith by the drawing of God.
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I know how it's used. But what I don't see is your definition. Jesus loves, honors, adores, exalts, elevates His Father. Sounds a lot like worship.Again, go to blueletterbible.org and do a keyword search on the word "worship." There you will see the word "worship" and how it is used in the Bible by looking at the context.
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But you said "Christ draws all men to Himself." Now you are saying that they don't all get drawn after all.No. People can refuse the drawing of God and they ignore the Spirit convicting them of their sin. It is their choice if they accept or reject the Lord.
Very well, but I have to think that you've refined your earlier concept about this, at least as you expressed it.Yes, God can give a person an awakening to the truth (so that they can accept it), but God does not make it so that is the only alternative for them. God still keeps a person's free will choice in effect.
Dragged? What are you talking about?There's nowhere in scripture that says one can refuse to be dragged. It does, however, state what happens to those dragged by God.
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