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What exactly do you need to read up on? Aboriginal Australians have dark skin and curly hair. Should they be able to interbreed with dark-skinned Africans? This should be a no brainer for you.Kasey said:When concerning the Aboriginal, I will have to study up on them as I am not particularly familiar with them.
mhatten said:Well people aren't lions. What would you call Halle Berry? She clearly looks Black but of course her mother is white.
mhatten said:Well people aren't lions. What would you call Halle Berry? She clearly looks Black but of course her mother is white.
Danhalen said:What exactly do you need to read up on? Aboriginal Australians have dark skin and curly hair. Should they be able to interbreed with dark-skinned Africans? This should be a no brainer for you.
Here is a photograph of an Australian aboriginal.http://www.crystalinks.com/aboriginalart.gif
Kasey said:Why are you asking me what I would call this individual?
What kind of information do you need? Just tell me how you define race. That's all I want. What makes me white, and Lebron James black? If you aren't merely using physical cues, such as skin tone, what are you using? How do you demarcate race?Kasey said:Do you have any more pictures or have some links that have more information about them?
Kasey said:In addition, all these sites that you mentioned ignore the simple fact that Adam and Eve were not the first people created upon Earth. In fact, they were the last. Shall I show this to you as well?
gaijin178 said:So much to respond to and I will later. I am too angry right now reading the replies from Kasey so I will sit on it for a bit until I calm down. I don't want to spend my friday night with this kind of emotion. Also, Kasey, you didn't respond to the verses that I posted. You kind of attempted to but didn't really. You wanted me to go back to another book and discover the definition of strange which you posted. I will look into that later so that I can come back to you. However, since you didn't respond to the verses and links that I posted, you must be ignoring that part of the bible. Since you asked me to go to the bible even though I am not Christian, I did so. Since you didn't respond to them, you must not agree with them. So, are you concluding that these parts of the bible aren't correct and that there might be some contridiction in your thought process?
And by the way, since this is a topic of race, I would prefer it if you would use the correct term when defining people like Jackie Chan and Jet Li. The term is Asian, or Pacific Islander. It's not oriental. As you can see, oriental isn't capitalized because it refers to objects, not people. So unless you are refering to Asian folks as objects, which obviously isn't correct, don't make yourself sound more ignorant by using that term. I'll post more later.
U R my Sonshine said:Gaijin, you should look into Jesus.You have demonstrated more Christian love than the "supposed" Christian Kaysey.
Have a great weekend...and rest assured, this is not typical of Christians to spew such hate.
Kasey said:You are ignoring this context of Ezra, of the Hebrew concerning the word "strange" in those passages. The word 'strange' is "nokriy" and it specifically means a foreign "non-relative" person. That nails it right there.
In addition, all these sites that you mentioned ignore the simple fact that Adam and Eve were not the first people created upon Earth. In fact, they were the last. Shall I show this to you as well?
Kasey said:Interpretation? There is no personal interpretation of the Bible as the Bible interprets itself. Shall I give you an example? Yes, I will.
Christ was righteous. Therefore, what is rightouesness? - Psalms 119: 171-172 and that is God's Commandments and Statutes, or, God's Laws. Therefore, we see that Christ was righteous because Christ kept the Law.
A small example, but an excellent one non-the-less. However, in regards to your disgust concerning my thought process of interracial marriage being wrong, I can only laugh at that. Your not a Christian, your a buddhist so why would you care anyways?
Still, I think I should give some more....
1. What is "love" - Romans 13:10 - Fulfilling God's Law
2. What is "The Love of God"? - 1 John 5:3 - Keeping God's Commandments.
3. What is "sin"? - 1 John 3:4 - Sin is breaking God's Law.
I think I rest my case on this regard
Kasey said:Distort the Bible? I havent distorted anything. The contradiction and problems lies with you, not the Bible and not with me.
Frankly, I dont care if you or anyone else take offense to the fact that I am against intterracial marriage as it is against the teachings of the Bible. You and those like you, who support interracial marriage are offensive to me. You and those who continue to call me "hateful" and that what Im sayig is hateful and sick and perverted, with no evidence to back it up, are offensive to me. All you do is name-calling, but you have "nothing" from the Bible to support your claims, nothing.
The final basis for your claim lies within the fact that the vast majority believe that the Bible teaches that we all come from Adam and Eve, yet, it doesnt and I can prove it. Would you like to see the evidence, for I would be more than happy to show it to you?
gaijin178 said:So much to respond to and I will later. I am too angry right now reading the replies from Kasey so I will sit on it for a bit until I calm down. I don't want to spend my friday night with this kind of emotion. Also, Kasey, you didn't respond to the verses that I posted. You kind of attempted to but didn't really. You wanted me to go back to another book and discover the definition of strange which you posted. I will look into that later so that I can come back to you. However, since you didn't respond to the verses and links that I posted, you must be ignoring that part of the bible. Since you asked me to go to the bible even though I am not Christian, I did so. Since you didn't respond to them, you must not agree with them. So, are you concluding that these parts of the bible aren't correct and that there might be some contridiction in your thought process?
And by the way, since this is a topic of race, I would prefer it if you would use the correct term when defining people like Jackie Chan and Jet Li. The term is Asian, or Pacific Islander. It's not oriental. As you can see, oriental isn't capitalized because it refers to objects, not people. So unless you are refering to Asian folks as objects, which obviously isn't correct, don't make yourself sound more ignorant by using that term. I'll post more later.
gaijin178 said:Sigh, lets have a go, for some reason I CAN'T let this go even if I know you will never change your mind. Instead of me checking Ezra right now, why don't you please check the verses that were quoted in this link.
Also, why are you bringing up Adam and Eve not being the first people created on Earth? What does this have to do with interracial marriage? So yes, please let me know what you are talking about.
gaijin178 said:One more go....You make it sound like it's a cause to fight for...you make it sound like I am in the streets with signs saying more rights for interracial couples. The fact is, that you are in the minority in your views. A majority of Christians interpret the bible in a way that says nothing about interracial relationships. You my friend, are one of the few who choses to see it otherwise for whatever reasons that you have. Frankly, I don't care if you feel offended by interracial marriages, that's your issue, not mine. And no, it's not my issue, or the bible's issue, or God's issue, it's yours and yours alone. I am sorry that you feel that we are calling you hateful, but that is what your words are showing us. If I was to say hateful things to someone and had no clue what I was really doing, I would want someone to let me know that what I said wasn't cool. I have to assume that wherever you are living in the US, has very little diversity. I feel bad for you. But you are welcome to do as you are, and hold your beliefs no matter how wrong they are and date and only date those of your own race. And you can do whatever you can to prevent your kids from being exposed to people other than their own race and hope that they don't fall in love with someone other than White Anglo-Saxan Protestant. God forbid they actually meet and associated with beings other than themselves, other members of God's creation to put it in your terms.
gaijin178 said:Obviously, the bible does not interpret itself since you hold a very unorthodox INTERPRETATION of the bible. Besides, if the bible interpreted itself, there wouldn't be thousands of Christian denominations in the US alone if this were true.
I am trying to laugh at your thoughts to find some kind of light in your posts but alas, I cannot. You ask why I should care what you think because I am a Buddhist, well when you say things that are directly or indirectly related to my life, then I feel that I need to set the record straight. I understand that your interpretation of the bible is how you are going to believe and no matter what, I will not change that.
So you are describing love when it comes to faith in God and following Gods law. God also talked about the kind of love that happens between two people. This is the love we are talking about.
DaRkWoLf said:Kasey, a quick point that comes from scripture; but a foreword as well:
Firstly, Ive gotten a smug, yet sad, laugh out of this thread. That someone would actually believe this stuff woleheartedly is a first for me; its not origional in the history of things, but Ive never met someone who honestly believed this BS. Im not going to even try to pretend to try and show respect. There are very few points of view on this planet that I cant admire or understand in some contorted form or another, yet alone tolerate. Using religion as an excuse for racism/social darwinism is one of those things that I cannot tolerate. Now lets get to my points before this becomes a rant-o-thon.
Now Ill admit that Ive gotten this info/scripture reference through analyzation and not memorization. Im a pagan not a christian. Ive used a copy of the bible that sits on my bookshelf as an interesting read for reference.
Lets analyze what Ezra said was the reason of this sin. Ezra quoting the prophets that spread the word of god:
"The land you are entering to possess is a land polluted by the corruption of its peoples. By their detestable practices they have filled it with their impurity from one end to the other."
Following this Ezra prayed to god and asked if they should again break his commannds, these are Ezra's words:
"Shall we again break your commands and intermarry with the peoples who commit such detestable practices?"
Read the writing. Neither god nor Ezra cared about the peoples race, they cared about what the people practiced as part of their religion and day to day life.
Do I actually have to continue on, further disproving your out-of-context statements, which are doing nothing but making christianity look bad, or are you finally satisfied?
As a random point, what do you think of the liger? Ligers are the uncommon, but sometimes natural spawn of the mating of a lion and a tiger. Many of these are results of human intervention, but they are found in the wild..
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