Logic about same race marriage

[jesusfreak3786]

Its unnatural because a white woman is not a black woman. Different kinds within a species stick to their own kind. White tigers stick with white tigers and Orange tigers stick with orange tigers, even though they are still tigers.

HAHAHA....that is a joke right?

Just because a white man and a black woman can procreate doesn mean thats it right to do so. You should stick with your own kind and leave others alone.

Do me a favor Kasey, find my kind. Btw, good luck.

People sneer at you because they actually know its a perversion, abomination and completely unnatural and disgusting thing to do. I applaud them.

OHHHH, I get it now, your from that Landover babtist church aren't you? You had me for a minute there....HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Kasey]

Kasey,

I got this from a Christian Website as I don't have a bible with me at work. Here is some scripture that you wanted as well as commentary. You are wrong.

Does the Bible Forbid Interracial Marriages?


The Bible does not forbid interracial marriages. It does, however, forbid a Christian from marrying an unbeliever: "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Cor. 6:14).
In Numbers 12:1-8 is an account of Moses marrying an Ethiopian woman. "And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman" (Num. 12:1).
Other Bible verses translate this as "Cush." Cush is the ancient location of Ethiopia. Miriam and Aaron were upset with Moses because he married a Cushite woman. Cush has also been considered to be the northern part of Egypt. Either way, it is very possible that Cushite woman was of a different race. God defended Moses for marrying this woman. If race were an issue, this would have been a great place to set the matter straight.
Also, people of different races were not mentioned as being among those forbidden by God for Jews to marry, see Exodus 34:11.

www.cam.org

You are ignoring this context of Ezra, of the Hebrew concerning the word "strange" in those passages. The word 'strange' is "nokriy" and it specifically means a foreign "non-relative" person. That nails it right there.

In addition, all these sites that you mentioned ignore the simple fact that Adam and Eve were not the first people created upon Earth. In fact, they were the last. Shall I show this to you as well?

 

[Kasey]

We shall see. If he does show up again, I am sure that his response will be that all of those folks are interpreting the bible incorrectly and he has the true interpretation. But alas, all we can do is hope that this kind of thought process doesn't continue.

Interpretation? There is no personal interpretation of the Bible as the Bible interprets itself. Shall I give you an example? Yes, I will.

Christ was righteous. Therefore, what is rightouesness? - Psalms 119: 171-172 and that is God's Commandments and Statutes, or, God's Laws. Therefore, we see that Christ was righteous because Christ kept the Law.

A small example, but an excellent one non-the-less. However, in regards to your disgust concerning my thought process of interracial marriage being wrong, I can only laugh at that. Your not a Christian, your a buddhist so why would you care anyways?

Still, I think I should give some more....

1. What is "love" - Romans 13:10 - Fulfilling God's Law
2. What is "The Love of God"? - 1 John 5:3 - Keeping God's Commandments.
3. What is "sin"? - 1 John 3:4 - Sin is breaking God's Law.

I think I rest my case on this regard

 

[Kasey]

That would be ideal. I just couldn't keep my mouth shut on this one though. I actually took this one quite personally because my partner is Filipina. She would be heartbroken to know that there are still people out there that think like this. On top of that, distort the bible to make those twisted views apply to their own racial bigotry.

Distort the Bible? I havent distorted anything. The contradiction and problems lies with you, not the Bible and not with me.

Frankly, I dont care if you or anyone else take offense to the fact that I am against intterracial marriage as it is against the teachings of the Bible. You and those like you, who support interracial marriage are offensive to me. You and those who continue to call me "hateful" and that what Im sayig is hateful and sick and perverted, with no evidence to back it up, are offensive to me. All you do is name-calling, but you have "nothing" from the Bible to support your claims, nothing.

The final basis for your claim lies within the fact that the vast majority believe that the Bible teaches that we all come from Adam and Eve, yet, it doesnt and I can prove it. Would you like to see the evidence, for I would be more than happy to show it to you?

 

[Kasey]

White how? Because their skin is "white"? No one's skin is actually white. Is any person with light colored skin a "white" person for your purposes? Is an Englishman white? Is a Spaniard? How about a Nigerian albino? I know you want me to "use my head", but if you're implying that it's obvious, I'm suggesting that it's not. I'm interested in your definition.

Right now, all you've done is define the concept with reference to itself (e.g., Q: What is wood? A: Wood is wood . . . rather than A: wood is the secondary xylem of trees and shrubs, lying beneath the bark and consisting largely of cellulose and lignin). So what is a "white" person? If the answer is easy and obvious, just give it to me. Is the most precise answer you can come up with that "white is white"?

It might seem like I'm trying to be difficult, but these questions are really essential when you're proposing social regulation based on classifications you're unwilling (unable?) to define ...

Examples of white people would be Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. Examples of Black people would be Oprah Winfrey, Samuel L. Jackson, Chris Tucker. Examples of Oriental people would Jackiey Chan and Jet Li.

Of course, there would be variations, but these could be considered token representatives of the different races. Allbeit that there are variations within those same classifications.

Bear in mind that when I say "race", I am not talking about political nationality. You could have a white man from scottland and a Black man from England and they still be seperate races in the aspect of being "Black" and "white" even those those two countries are generally perceived to be "white".

 

[Scholar in training]

The final basis for your claim lies within the fact that the vast majority believe that the Bible teaches that we all come from Adam and Eve

Vast majority where? The U.S. is one of the few countries that hasn't completely accepted evolution as the standard for explaining how we got where we are.

 

[Kasey]

Vast majority where? The U.S. is one of the few countries that hasn't completely accepted evolution as the standard for explaining how we got where we are.

Vast Majority? Look up the word "CHristian" and look around a bit and you will see what I mean

 

[Danhalen]

I just want to know how we demarcate "white people", "black people", and "asian people" and so forth. An illustration, can an Australian aboriginal be with an African Hutu? Can an Brit be with an Italian? Can an Indian be with a Phillipino?

 

[Scholar in training]

Vast Majority? Look up the word "CHristian" and look around a bit and you will see what I mean

No, I don't see what you mean. You are being too vague, and it is a fact that some Christians in the U.S. (and more in other countries) have decided for themselves that the theory of evolution is correct.

 

[Kasey]

No, I don't see what you mean. You are being too vague, and it is a fact that some Christians in the U.S. (and more in other countries) have decided for themselves that the theory of evolution is correct.

I said the vast majority. I did not say all of them and aside from that the Bible doesnt teach Evolution and I will debate that as well

Aside from this, just go out to any major denomination and ask if they believe that all people come from Adam and Eve. I garuntee that most of them will say either "yes" or have a variation of it.

 

[Kasey]

I just want to know how we demarcate "white people", "black people", and "asian people" and so forth. An illustration, can an Australian aboriginal be with an African Hutu? Can an Brit be with an Italian? Can an Indian be with a Phillipino?

Like I said, when I say "race", I dont mean political nationality. There are some white people born in Australia and Black people born in Australia even though both are "Australian".

 

[Scholar in training]

I said the vast majority.

I would like you to provide evidence that the vast majority of Christians believe that we came from Adam and Eve.

 

[praying]

Examples of white people would be Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. Examples of Black people would be Oprah Winfrey, Samuel L. Jackson, Chris Tucker. Examples of Oriental people would Jackiey Chan and Jet Li.

I hate to burst your bubble but you have no idea if those people are "white" or "black". You are merely going by how they look physically. I can almost gurantee that the Black people you named have white blood in them.


You know what they say, shake your family tree and you never know what might fall out.

 

[Danhalen]

Like I said, when I say "race", I dont mean political nationality. There are some white people born in Australia and Black people born in Australia even though both are "Australian".

That is not what I asked. Just take the aboriginal from Australia and any African. Since they both appear similar in skin tone, is it appropriate for them to interbreed? Are you basing this on skin tone only?

 

[Kasey]

I hate to burst your bubble but you have no idea if those people are "white" or "black". You are merely going by how they look physically. I can almost gurantee that the Black people you named have white blood in them.


You know what they say, shake your family tree and you never know what might fall out.

Exactlys. Its based on physical characteristics. How else wnould you be able to distinquish between a lion and a tiger even though they are both felines? Its the same with humans. Its more than just the skin color itself as the bone structures in white people and black people are different, all the way down to how their hair is made and designed.

Black people naturally have no red hair, nor blonde. They never have green eyes nor blue eyes, but brown or black. These are all distinquishable characteristics that show how Black people are a different race than white people.

 

[Kasey]

I would like you to provide evidence that the vast majority of Christians believe that we came from Adam and Eve.

Here are some links for a few of the denominations out ther at the moment. I will look for more later.

http://whgc.all-of-grace.net/studies/Don_Fortner_Bible_Doctrine/Study/gcdoc0022.htm - Baptist Belief that Adam and Eve were first humans

http://www.fishersoffamily.org/Lutherans-belief.html - Lutherans belief that Adam and Eve were first humans.

http://www.catholic-pages.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3778 - Catholic Belief in Adam and Eve being the first humans

 

[Kasey]

That is not what I asked. Just take the aboriginal from Australia and any African. Since they both appear similar in skin tone, is it appropriate for them to interbreed? Are you basing this on skin tone only?

There are similarities between lions and tigers as well and there are similarities between all species, but that doesnt mean they should interbreed.

No, I am not basing this purely on skin tone.

When concerning the Aboriginal, I will have to study up on them as I am not particularly familiar with them.

 

[praying]

Exactlys. Its based on physical characteristics. How else wnould you be able to distinquish between a lion and a tiger even though they are both felines? Its the same with humans. Its more than just the skin color itself as the bone structures in white people and black people are different, all the way down to how their hair is made and designed.

Black people naturally have no red hair, nor blonde. They never have green eyes nor blue eyes, but brown or black. These are all distinquishable characteristics that show how Black people are a different race than white people.

I think you missed my point. You cannot look at a person and assume based on their skin, eye, or hair color what their racial lineage is, besides race as I am sure has been mentioned somewhere on this thread is a false concept. Genetically we are all the same.

 

[Kasey]

I think you missed my point. You cannot look at a person and assume based on their skin, eye, or hair color what their racial lineage is, besides race as I am sure has been mentioned somewhere on this thread is a false concept. Genetically we are all the same.

Granted that you can see their "entire" racial lineage but that doesnt meant that you cant tell if someone is black or white or oriental. Lions are different than tigers even though they are both felines, but you can tell the difference between the two just by looking at them - so how do you get around that one?

 

[praying]

Granted that you can see their "entire" racial lineage but that doesnt meant that you cant tell if someone is black or white or oriental. Lions are different than tigers even though they are both felines, but you can tell the difference between the two just by looking at them - so how do you get around that one?

Well people aren't lions. What would you call Halle Berry? She clearly looks Black but of course her mother is white.