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Loch Ness Monster debunks evolution

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As reported by the Herald Scotland (which must track all Loch Ness-related news), a school that will receive tax-payer dollars, will teach kids that the mythological sea creature is real in order to debunk the theory of evolution. So pay attention: That will be on the test.

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Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.

There you have it. Something appears to be a plesiosaur to some unnamed scientists so evolution has now been proven wrong. What better debunking could you ask for. They even have grainy out of focus pictures of something or other in the water to back it up!
 
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Love this quote: Carrier said, "We try to stay away from all those things that might confuse our children."

Yeah.... reality would be confusing to children you are trying to indoctrinate by telling them a plesiosaur lives in a Scottish lake today.
 
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Well, how did satyrs evolve then?

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A strange creature like this obviously disproves evolution.
 
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Stop it! You're confusing the children!

(I love The Onion)
Just when you thought that things couldn't get any worse.....

I am so glad that my daughters are not being educated in America.

BTW, the onion is pretty good - but they couldn't write a story that competes with creationist logic (although the goat story does come pretty close).
 
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And so now a reporter from the heraldscotland is setting the standard for what is true and what is not? So typical follow the masses. Remember, her article is mostly her opinion and slanted toward her bias. She relates the following:

"Of course, the Scottish tourist industry might well reap a dividend from the craziness of the American education system. Nessie expert Tony Drummond, who leads tours as part of Cruise Loch Ness, has a few words of advice to the US schools in question: come to the loch and try to find the monster.

"They need to come and investigate the loch for themselves," says the 47-year-old. "We've got some hi-tech equipment. They could come out on the boat and do a whole chunk of the loch.

"We do get regular sonar contacts which are pretty much unexplainable. More research has to be done, but it's not way along the realms of possibility."

In her own article she quotes a "Nessie expert" who says there are regular sonar contacts which are UNEXPLAINABLE and that MORE RESEARCH HAS TO BE DONE. He doesn't sound like he is a believer but then again he does admit that there are things happening that have to be further researched.

So no one has proven that "Nessie" does not exist and from what I read in the ACE textbook they were not saying that it was proved but rather that is what people were speculating and believing. Some people don't have to defend their unbelief and slap down the unexplainable as impossible or improbable of others.
 
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So no one has proven that "Nessie" does not exist and from what I read in the ACE textbook they were not saying that it was proved but rather that is what people were speculating and believing. Some people don't have to defend their unbelief and slap down the unexplainable as impossible or improbable of others.


You really don't need to prove it doesn't exist. What can be demonstrated, however, is that Loch Ness is far too small to support a life form as large as Nessie is supposed to be. There simply wouldn't be enough fish in a body of water that small to sustain it, and there are too many living fish there to hint that anything is eating them all. Not to mention, a creature that large in a body of water that small would be incredibly easy to find.

It's also been proven that the original photos that started it all were a hoax. The story started in 1933. There was no evidence -- just word of mouth. Even the photos that would be presetned as evidence were later admitted by the photographers to be hoaxes. The Surgeon's photograph would even go on to be recreated in 1999 to illustrate how easy it is to create such a hoax. The "monster" you see in that famous photo is only about 19 inches long and made of plastic wood.
 
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You really don't need to prove it doesn't exist. What can be demonstrated, however, is that Loch Ness is far too small to support a life form as large as Nessie is supposed to be. There simply wouldn't be enough fish in a body of water that small to sustain it, and there are too many living fish there to hint that anything is eating them all. Not to mention, a creature that large in a body of water that small would be incredibly easy to find.
The lake is 23 miles long (that's 121,440 feet) and is 755 ft deep at it's deepest point. It is the largest Scottish lake by volume though it is second in surface area. It contains more freshwater than all the lakes in England and Wales combined.

And the first mention of good old Nessie goes back to 565 AD by St Columba who saw the animal twice that year. He was a priest who had nothing to gain by spreading a lie, but everything to lose if it were ever to be found out that he was lying.

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The lake is 23 miles long (that's 121,440 feet) and is 755 ft deep at it's deepest point. It is the largest Scottish lake by volume though it is second in surface area. It contains more freshwater than all the lakes in England and Wales combined.

And the first mention of good old Nessie goes back to 565 AD by St Columba who saw the animal twice that year. He was a priest who had nothing to gain by spreading a lie, but everything to lose if it were ever to be found out that he was lying.

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Eyewitness accounts are unreliable.
 
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That's probably why the courts system never ever use them.

Yep, sometimes it's the best you've got, which is why attorneys either love or hate them, because there are people like you who will believe anything.

BTW, I read the wiki account of St. Columba, and this part made me laugh;

"They tried to rescue him in a boat, but were able only to drag up his corpse. Hearing this, Columba stunned the Picts by sending his follower Luigne moccu Min to swim across the river. The beast came after him, but Columba made the sign of the cross and commanded: "Go no further. Do not touch the man. Go back at once."[18] The beast immediately halted as if it had been "pulled back with ropes" and fled in terror, and both Columba's men and the pagan Picts praised God for the miracle."

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Take this selective attention test and see how you do.
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