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A4C said:
Now there IS a statement with huge acedamic content
Still more than anything I've seen you post on this forum. You NEVER follow up your points when they are questioned, you instead spout the same rubbish over and over again in the hope that people will eventually stop correcting you!
 
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It was never me who made the statement that there was not multiple animal burrows . It was your group who said there was extending over various sediment layers therby suggesting that a global flood was out of the question. Now what I am asking for is details of where these burrows are which so far has not been forthcoming.

You have been given the evidence. Animal burrows, mature soils, roots, trees, corals, nest, and other trace fossils are found in almost every layer of the geologic column. These cannot be explained by a flood depositing the sediment in which they are found. It is up to flood geologists to tell us what layers the flood supposedly created because there appears to be no clear evidence that any of them were created by a single worldwide flood event.

The location of these burrows and other trace fossils is detailed in the links you have been provided and referenced there. If you need more information, it most likely will not be found online. You need to read a book on geology or do some basic research. This is the only way you can get to the point where you are talking about the actual evidence and formations we see in the geologic column. Continued claims that these were created by a single global flooding event without explaining how these trace fossils and other evidence got there is simply not going to do much to sway those that are familiar with the actual evidence. The flood scenario doesn't explain them. Geologists have know this for over a hundred years.
 
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May God bless you brother
Likewise. :)

Still, I was simply pointing out the facts of the situation. And it would behoove you to learn some humility and respect and at least make an attempt to:

1. Learn about modern science and why its claims are made.
2. Back up your arguments.
 
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notto said:
You have been given the evidence. Animal burrows, mature soils, roots, trees, corals, nest, and other trace fossils are found in almost every layer of the geologic column. These cannot be explained by a flood depositing the sediment in which they are found. It is up to flood geologists to tell us what layers the flood supposedly created because there appears to be no clear evidence that any of them were created by a single worldwide flood event.

The location of these burrows and other trace fossils is detailed in the links you have been provided and referenced there. If you need more information, it most likely will not be found online. You need to read a book on geology or do some basic research. This is the only way you can get to the point where you are talking about the actual evidence and formations we see in the geologic column. Continued claims that these were created by a single global flooding event without explaining how these trace fossils and other evidence got there is simply not going to do much to sway those that are familiar with the actual evidence. The flood scenario doesn't explain them. Geologists have know this for over a hundred years.
Thank you for your explanation that you dont know where to find documentation to back up your claims of multi level animal burrows.
I therefore assume that every other one of your "claims" against a global flood also cannot be substantiated
 
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L'Anatra said:
Likewise. :)

Still, I was simply pointing out the facts of the situation. And it would behoove you to learn some humility and respect and at least make an attempt to:

1. Learn about modern science and why its claims are made.
2. Back up your arguments.
Modern science does nothing to enhance my love of God infact it would tend to turn me off Him. Now what is it better to do -love God or love science
I just happen to opt for God. I believe it will be better for me in the long run
Again I re- interate
God bless you
 
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A4C said:
I just happen to opt for God. I believe it will be better for me in the long run
Again I re- interate
God bless you
Sounds like it's all about you. You know, the ME ME ME disease. Not supporting science when it can help mankind (although it might destroy it)?

I suppose you take "cannot serve two masters" then literally. Good for you. When doctors save your life if you need it, you won't be rejecting science then;)
 
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In A Perfect World said:
Sounds like it's all about you. You know, the ME ME ME disease. Not supporting science when it can help mankind (although it might destroy it)?

I suppose you take "cannot serve two masters" then literally. Good for you. When doctors save your life if you need it, you won't be rejecting science then;)
Jesus has saved my life and yours also
Yes science is wonderful . It has given us atomic weapens and oh yes it has given us abortion techniques. Just think that these blessing have enabled US to murder 44 million babies since 1973
Whoopee
 
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A4C said:
Modern science does nothing to enhance my love of God infact it would tend to turn me off Him.
Why?

Now what is it better to do -love God or love science. I just happen to opt for God.
What in the world are you talking about? Do you have to make silly decisions like this every day?

This thread has nothing to do with "loving" anything. It has everything to do with a flood. There is no evidence that a global flood ever occurred. Nor is there any reason to invoke circular logic like "it happened because the Bible says it did and the Bible says it is infallible."

I believe it will be better for me in the long run
What arrogance! Well, have at it. I'm sure you will contribute something to society. "It'll be better for me." Wow...

Again I re- interate God bless you
God bless you. I pray that He can also teach you a lesson which up 'til now you haven't quite grasped.
 
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Jesus has saved my life and yours also
Yes science is wonderful . It has given us atomic weapens and oh yes it has given us abortion techniques. Just think that these blessing have enabled US to murder 44 million babies since 1973
Whoopee
Yeah. And those "babies" wouldn't have been "murdered" anyway using techniques that could have killed the mothers as well. Give me a break.

I might as well invoke such atrocities as the Crusades and the Inquisition and say "gee, religion is wonderful... it's caused all this bloodshed. Whoopee!"

But I'd imagine that comparison would be lost on you. I'd imagine you'd try and separate yourself from Roman Catholicism and say "true" (i.e. your brand of) Christianity had nothing to do with those events.

[sarcasm]I'm glad there are people that go through life thinking morality is simple and every decision is black and white.[/sarcasm]
 
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L'Anatra said:
Why?


What in the world are you talking about? Do you have to make silly decisions like this every day?

This thread has nothing to do with "loving" anything. It has everything to do with a flood. There is no evidence that a global flood ever occurred. Nor is there any reason to invoke circular logic like "it happened because the Bible says it did and the Bible says it is infallible."


What arrogance! Well, have at it. I'm sure you will contribute something to society. "It'll be better for me." Wow...


God bless you. I pray that He can also teach you a lesson which up 'til now you haven't quite grasped.
You don't get it do you?
 
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God is LOVE
Precisely!

Although I fail to see why you're here.

If I didn't care about (read: love) the people in the world who have the misfortune of being misled, I wouldn't be part of this discussion. Arrogance, hubris, and intolerance--qualities which to me are evident in the posts you've made here--are not part of my definition of "love".

On the other hand, "love" does not necessarily mean treating what some of you like to call an "opposing viewpoint" with respect when it is not deserving of it on its own merits. The difference here is that I have read extensively in an attempt to understand why your views are the way they are (young-earth creationism). You have not afforded the people you are "arguing with" that same respect. That is intellectual dishonesty, my friend, which isn't the best tactic to use in a forum such as this.

(EDIT: Sorry, I had to expound upon this post.)
 
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