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quatona

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Why do bad things happen to good people?
Why does that even surprise anyone? Why would you expect otherwise? Why does it need an explanation?
As for the load in the question: Yes - equivocation is lurking in the use of the dichotomy "good-bad" here.
 
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Why do bad things happen to good people?

Be careful when answering this question. It's a minefield by the way.

I would like to hear your reasoning.
Of all the explanations I've heard, the most satisfying one to me is this: past kamma. Unwholesome deeds, thoughts, and intentions from the past will eventually sprout as bad circumstances in one's life - whether or not the future self who experiences those circumstances is "bad" or "good". Current choices (kamma) will also eventually sprout in the future in some way, shape, and form.

We live in a world and universe governed by an unmistakeable law: that of cause and effect. When appropriate events combine together to produce a seed (of any sort), and that seed is planted and nurtured, and appropriate supporting circumstances appear, that seed will undoubtedly sprout.
 
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Thank you, Davinc.
 
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The fact remains that God could have created a system where the son does not pay for the sins of the father.

He didn't..........and your analogy doesn't fit.


Isn't the entire point of Jesus that the rules God made are impossible for any normal human to follow?

There are no rules for you, Cadet. It is all Grace. Romans 10:8-13.
 
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I'm sorry to tell you that you get it all confused. A system where the son does not pay the sin of the father is a system without inheritance, that is, you wouldn't inherit a genetic material from your parents, when they die you would not inherit their wealth, etc...in such system reproduction would be impossible, each subsequent generation would have to be created, no reproduction, no descendants. We have the angel as examples. Only the ones who sin are corrupted. The rest are as sinless as they were created.

Have you seen the movie ex machina? If you haven't i suggest you to. It describes a system where every version of AI that fail the creator standard was destroyed and improved upon. This is the system you describe. A disconnect system. The movie seems immoral and the programmer abusive. I wouldn't call it a morally flawed system. To call it that would be to deny to the programmer the sovereignty over its creation.

To call God's decision as flaw over its creation, it's like denying its sovereignty.

When God made us, he didn't contain us but he liberated and then he set boundaries. We crossed the line, we pay the price. Simple. Nothing morally flawed here. Free will does not mean I can do whatever I want but only allowed to do. Our free is subject to an absolute Will, which is higher than us.

Your analogies are really wrong, it's not like we didn't have choices. If I tell you to jump off a cliff would you? And your friend tell youiif you jump you'll die an horrible death. Who is the sociopath here? I would guess me telling you to jump off. Not your friend warning you. You are free to jump, but also free not to.

What do you know about Grace and love. What you describe is the same thing the trees are doing. I guess you want to be a tree, huh!

We all want a loving God, but we refuse to believe that he is also just that he will punish the sinner. It's like love and justice are mutually exclusive.
 
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