Liturgical colors

[The Liturgist]

Actually, black was used in the ordinary form when I attended. I think it was on Good Friday.

I agree, though.

Good

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Were you raised Catholic?

No, Lutheran.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I should also add, traditional Catholics, Anglicans and Lutherans continue to use black vestments, as they ought so to do. Indeed, I advocate for the general and widespread reintroduction of black in all context except for individual funerals, where white is the color traditionally used by the Orthodox, with black only being used under RC influence.

The Coptic and Syriac Orthodox rites use black during Holy Week as well.

While there are local traditions where white and even purple are used for funerals; "officially" the colour of the season would be used for funerals.

 

[RileyG]

No, Lutheran.

Ah, I see.

 

[RileyG]

While there are local traditions where white and even purple are used for funerals; "officially" the colour of the season would be used for funerals.

Interesting. I've only seen White used for funerals.

 

[RileyG]

Good

I also live in a very conservative diocese which explains why.

 

[JM]

The black and gold of Good Friday; solemn and beautiful: followed by the brilliant white and gold of Easter...
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I second that, especially Tenebrae service.

Red after that.

 

[The Liturgist]

Thank you so much for posting this thread @George95

Liturgical color is one of my favorite areas of study when it comes ro lorirgiology, perhaps because in my childhood it was one of the most interesting and obvious signs of the distinctions between the liturgical seasons. Indeed I recall the changing colors of the glass on the vigil lamp above the pulpit at the LCMS parish to which my parochial school was attached with particular clarity.

Would anyone be interested in my posting a comparative overview of liturgical colors between different rites?

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

White this Sunday for Michaelmass!

 

[RileyG]

White this Sunday for Michaelmass!

That’s pretty awesome!

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Interesting. I've only seen White used for funerals.

Our Parish's practice is a white pall, but paraments remain the colour of the season. Some Churches have matching palls for every colour; while economy may have been a factor, in our funeral Liturgy after the Introit there is a remembrance of Baptism, and the similarity of the white pall and the white garment placed on the newly baptized child id great symbolism. After all, are we not robed in white, being cleansed by the blood of the Lamb? Note the white Pall and the Green Paraments of Common Time.

 

[RileyG]

The priest wore green last night since Sunday takes precedence over Michaelmass, but still a great feast day!

 

[The Liturgist]

Regarding funerals:

This is actually probably a rare case of actual Byzantinzation or Orientalization of the Western rites, since the use of white colored vestments to symbolize the Resurrection at funerals is definitely a historic Orthodox practice.

Also a standard greeting at funerals is “Christos Anesti” (Christ Has Risen), just like with Pascha.

 

[The Liturgist]

The priest wore green last night since Sunday takes precedence over Michaelmass, but still a great feast day!

That’s one of those pecularities of the Novus Ordo I dislike. I do not think a Ferial Sunday should take place over the feast of St. Michael. The pripritization of ferial propers actually goes back to Pope St. Pius X, who I generally like, who was trying to compensate for the ferials inevitably getting displaced, which I can understand, but its a sort or case of solving one problem and creating another.

My own preferred approach is rubrics which provide for combining feasts with ferial Sundays according to a pattern, with something like Michaelmas obviously taking priority.

 

[RileyG]

That’s one of those pecularities of the Novus Ordo I dislike. I do not think a Ferial Sunday should take place over the feast of St. Michael. The pripritization of ferial propers actually goes back to Pope St. Pius X, who I generally like, who was trying to compensate for the ferials inevitably getting displaced, which I can understand, but its a sort or case of solving one problem and creating another.

My own preferred approach is rubrics which provide for combining feasts with ferial Sundays according to a pattern, with something like Michaelmas obviously taking priority.

Thanks for the info! I do live in a town with a FSSP parish, but alas, I do not drive so I have no one to take me.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

That’s one of those pecularities of the Novus Ordo I dislike. I do not think a Ferial Sunday should take place over the feast of St. Michael. The pripritization of ferial propers actually goes back to Pope St. Pius X, who I generally like, who was trying to compensate for the ferials inevitably getting displaced, which I can understand, but its a sort or case of solving one problem and creating another.

My own preferred approach is rubrics which provide for combining feasts with ferial Sundays according to a pattern, with something like Michaelmas obviously taking priority.

Major Festivals always take priority over Ferial Sundays in our tradition, however there are congregations who chose not to celebrate some of the Historic feasts like St. Michael; their loss. They are all in the book; if they don't observe, it is on them.

Someone dropped the ball today and kept the camera rolling; they caught me stripping the white after the service to put the green back on. LOL.

One of the reasons Churches don't change much is they may have no one to do those changes. Since the start of Covid, I became the default Altar Guild; still stuck in the position of Sacristan. LOL

 

[The Liturgist]

Major Festivals always take priority over Ferial Sundays in our tradition, however there are congregations who chose not to celebrate some of the Historic feasts like St. Michael; their loss. They are all in the book; if they don't observe, it is on them.

Someone dropped the ball today and kept the camera rolling; they caught me stripping the white after the service to put the green back on. LOL.

One of the reasons Churches don't change much is they may have no one to do those changes. Since the start of Covid, I became the default Altar Guild; still stuck in the position of Sacristan. LOL
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You are so hardworking and pious Mark. An example to us all.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

You are so hardworking and pious Mark. An example to us all.

Your words are most kind, but I still feel unworthy of the task and position.
Thank you.

 

[JM]

My Pastor wore green. He's 87 and still stands out front of the church to greet people.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Green is my favourite colour.

I do like green vestments, but I like red and gold for martyrs best.