"Lisa"

[Ran77]

If you saw someone doing harm to another What would you do to right the wrong?

That would depend on the situation.

 

[miknik5]

That would depend on the situation.

Would it?

So you didn't understand that it is not ours to avenge?

 

[BigDaddy4]

Based on the content of this post I'd say Ironhold really hit a nerve. The words of Shakespeare come to mind, Methinks thou doth protest too much.

That quote is more fitting for Ironhold, actually. He is the one constantly bringing it up in numerous threads and trying to characterize it as "mainstream Christianity". It's his personal vendetta, not mine. And, I will repeat, NOT a relevant topic for this particular sub-forum.

 

[BigDaddy4]

And oddly enough I didn't make any claim about your relationship with my approval. People post their opinions and observations all the time. That includes you. I'm not aware of any good reason why I should be excluded from participating in this forum in the same manner as everyone else.

If you think my comment is a flame--report it.

I believe in free speech and have not and will not report posts. That's for the mods to decide. Oddly enough, when you quote my post in your response, you create an association between my post and your comment. Hence, my approval comment. Don't like it? Don't quote me.

 

[Ran77]

Would it?

So you didn't understand that it is not ours to avenge?

I didn't say anything about avenging. You posted a twisted question. If I saw someone being hurt I would help them. I wouldn't wait until it was over and then avenge them. How I helped them would depend on the situation.

 

[Ran77]

I believe in free speech and have not and will not report posts.

Report me. Don't report me. I don't care. I'm just not interested in hearing about it.

Oddly enough, when you quote my post in your response, you create an association between my post and your comment. Hence, my approval comment. Don't like it? Don't quote me.

That's some really broken logic there.

 

[miknik5]

I didn't say anything about avenging. You posted a twisted question. If I saw someone being hurt I would help them. I wouldn't wait until it was over and then avenge them. How I helped them would depend on the situation.

Don't ever desire to put yourself in the situation where you would have to

Actually pray that you will never have to act

 

[Nihilist Virus]

http://www.fmh-child.org/Lisa.html

I originally posted this elsewhere, but only one person dared address it.


The above tract was first published in 1984 by Chick Publications, a company that has spent the last 40+ decades publishing material aimed at converting people towards a form of Evangelical Protestantism; most of the material is produced, in whole or in part, by Jack Chick, the founder of the organization.

In the tract, a doctor discovers that the titular character, a young girl, is somehow suffering from a persistent STD and shows other signs of having been sexually assaulted. When the doctor confronts the girl's father about this, the father confesses. In response to this discovery, the doctor informs...

...the dad that he needs to get right with God.

Legal obligations to report abuse? What legal obligations to report abuse? No, once the dad says some choice words in front of the doctor, the doctor lets the dad go home to his family. The dad confesses all, and then says that he's already asked God for forgiveness. In response, the wife and child pray to God for forgiveness for ever being angry with him.

The end.

The company was ultimately forced to chuck things down the hole 1984-style... because the tract was a liability. Neither Chick himself nor the company have, to my knowledge, ever backed down from the message presented in it. Instead, they have simply chosen to deny that it ever existed. Problem is, they published so many copies of this before yanking it that enough copies survived to the dawn of the internet age, at which point they were promptly digitized at web sites like the one above.

So...

As someone who belongs to a mainline Christian denomination, how does it feel knowing that a tract like this was published in God's name?

You must disavow Joseph Smith for his blatant racism and sexism if you want a chance at respectability. Also cease and desist with the utterly insane beliefs and rituals. As it stands, here's the ranking of the world's top three worst religions:

1. Islam (by far)
2. Catholicism
3. LDS

I don't know where I'd place Evangelicals, but they're pretty low simply by virtue of their relatively high conversion rate to atheism. Islam being #1 I assume requires no explanation. Same for Catholicism at #2. Mormons are #3 and I'll be happy to explain if you demand it.

But thanks for the link, it was a good read.

 

[Ran77]

Don't ever desire to put yourself in the situation where you would have to

Here's a don't for you. Don't ever tell me what to do like you have here.

 

[Ran77]

Actually pray that you will never have to act

Sounds like apathy to me.

 

[miknik5]

Here's a don't for you. Don't ever tell me what to do like you have here.

Ok. Do

 

[miknik5]

Sounds like apathy to me.

Don't worry about it. The time will come when one will have to act and those who have grown up into the head will know what to do

However not all have grown up into the head

 

[Ran77]

Don't worry about it. The time will come when one will have to act and those who have grown up into the head will know what to do

However not all have grown up into the head

What does that even mean?

 

[miknik5]

What does that even mean?

Like I said don't worry about it

Though you told me never to say that again

Didn't you?

 

[ViaCrucis]

a man rapes a virgin and then wants to marry her.

What is the simple solution?

Throw his butt in jail and let him rot, and give the woman therapy, support, and time to heal from such a tragic event.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

mainline Christianity.

Doesn't fit here because Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism are in contrast to Mainline Protestantism.

Jack Chick and his comics do not represent Mainline Protestantism.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Nihilist Virus]

Doesn't fit here because Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism are in contrast to Mainline Protestantism.

Jack Chick and his comics do not represent Mainline Protestantism.

-CryptoLutheran

You come across as very distant and apathetic when you say things like this or like when you said that Atonement Theory is just one possible explanation of the purpose of Jesus' death.

Your profile says you live in America. From the way you act so baffled by what is obviously the huge majority of Christianity and Christian theology, I would've guessed you live on the moon.

 

[miknik5]

Throw his butt in jail and let him rot, and give the woman therapy, support, and time to heal from such a tragic event.

-CryptoLutheran

Crypto

Please read the story of Dinah

 

[Ran77]

Like I said don't worry about it

Though you told me never to say that again

Didn't you?

My comment was about not telling me what to do. Are you not able to participate without telling others what they should do?

 

[miknik5]

My comment was about not telling me what to do. Are you not able to participate without telling others what they should do?

Did you think my response was to you personally?

Do you know THE SPIRIT of GOD? Do you know what you should do when darkness comes?