has anyone successfully done this? I would like to share a dsl internet connection with my 2 home desktops, XP pro and xp home... any help would be appreciated.... (very very low budget!!!)
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linking 2 computers, no router or hub
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WeakButHopeful
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I'm not sure (perhaps others can confirm or correct my advice) but I believe if you had 2 ethernet NIC cards installed in your XP Pro machine and 1 in your XP Home machine, then the DSL could plug into the one NIC and you could use a "cross-over" RJ45 cable between the other NIC in the XP Pro machine and the NIC in the XP Home machine. You'd then have to turn on Internet Connection Sharing on the DSL NIC by going into Settings-Network-Properties-Advanced. I believe there are also firewall considerations to doing that. Not exactly like rolling off a log.
Now, that said, I must add that I bought my router on sale for a very reasonable price and I'm very happy to be behind it. Whenever the cable company Customer Service person asks me to bypass the router and prove the problem isn't there, Norton Internet Security pops up within minutes telling me about all the intrusions it's stopping. And you have to consider that the extra NIC in your XP Pro machine is going to cost a little bit of money and will take up a valuable slot in your machine.
Now, that said, I must add that I bought my router on sale for a very reasonable price and I'm very happy to be behind it. Whenever the cable company Customer Service person asks me to bypass the router and prove the problem isn't there, Norton Internet Security pops up within minutes telling me about all the intrusions it's stopping. And you have to consider that the extra NIC in your XP Pro machine is going to cost a little bit of money and will take up a valuable slot in your machine.
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excellent.... thank you.... hopefully the crossover cable is not a big deal... is it?
I have another NIC card from an old machine that I use for pieces and parts... so as soon as I track down a cable.... I should be ready to try it... thanks!
I have another NIC card from an old machine that I use for pieces and parts... so as soon as I track down a cable.... I should be ready to try it... thanks!
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WeakButHopeful
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Again, I'm not exactly an expert in this area, but I believe the "cross-over" refers to a flip in the wiring of the cable so that each PC thinks it's talking to a hub/router. I hate to admit my own stupidity but I actually bought a cross-over cable once when I wanted a regular CAT5 patch cable, so that's when I learned the difference. I believe you can also buy one of those little beige plastic things specifically for CAT5 cross-over (female to female so you need two regular patch cables to use with it). I did a google search on "crossover cat5".
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rdale
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To reiterate what WeakButHopeful said about being behind a router, I hope you are!!! 
found a good tute for doing this HERE, thanks to Mr Google
EDIT -----><insertAFTERTHOUGHT>
When you get things sorted, ya might want to head over to
GRC and check out "Your Three Musketeers" and "ShieldsUP!".
</AFTERTHOUGHT>
found a good tute for doing this HERE, thanks to Mr Google
EDIT -----><insertAFTERTHOUGHT>
When you get things sorted, ya might want to head over to
GRC and check out "Your Three Musketeers" and "ShieldsUP!".
</AFTERTHOUGHT>
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I'm not a networking expert, but I am an expert on your set-up. I've done it myself and with 4 computers!
It is correct you can use a cross-over cable. Be careful though, make _sure_ that it is a crossover cable when you buy it. Crossover cables can be rather expensive from your local stores like CompUSA or Best Buy. The alternative is E-Bay, got a !!!100 foot!!! cable off ebay for < $20(that's with shipping). I'm still using it for networking with a computer all the way across the house. BTW, you can't go over 100-ft though, if I recall correctly. The cables start failing after that length.
Ok, so yeah, if you have 3 nics(1 on the "client" computer and 2 on the "host") you pop the DSL modem on the host and a crossover between the host and client. On the host run the Network Setup Wizard. Tell it that "this computer will connect directly to the internet and the rest will connect to it." or whatever it is that NSW says. It will basically do all the work for you. When it's done just tell it to finish, you don't need a disc for anything. Go over to the client and run the wizard there. Tell the wizard that you want that computer to connect to another one for the internet. It'll go it's thang and should finish. If you ever encounter an error, just try again. If you keep getting an error then...just ask us about it.
It _should_ all just work. If it does, have fun!
Warning: If ever you wanted to switch to a router based network it'll be a big pain when you have crossover cables. I had to find a special router that accepted crossover cables for my network when I switched cause I didn't want to have to replace my 100ft cable, heh.
It is correct you can use a cross-over cable. Be careful though, make _sure_ that it is a crossover cable when you buy it. Crossover cables can be rather expensive from your local stores like CompUSA or Best Buy. The alternative is E-Bay, got a !!!100 foot!!! cable off ebay for < $20(that's with shipping). I'm still using it for networking with a computer all the way across the house
. BTW, you can't go over 100-ft though, if I recall correctly. The cables start failing after that length.Ok, so yeah, if you have 3 nics(1 on the "client" computer and 2 on the "host") you pop the DSL modem on the host and a crossover between the host and client. On the host run the Network Setup Wizard. Tell it that "this computer will connect directly to the internet and the rest will connect to it." or whatever it is that NSW says. It will basically do all the work for you. When it's done just tell it to finish, you don't need a disc for anything. Go over to the client and run the wizard there. Tell the wizard that you want that computer to connect to another one for the internet. It'll go it's thang and should finish. If you ever encounter an error, just try again. If you keep getting an error then...just ask us about it.
It _should_ all just work. If it does, have fun!
Warning: If ever you wanted to switch to a router based network it'll be a big pain when you have crossover cables. I had to find a special router that accepted crossover cables for my network when I switched cause I didn't want to have to replace my 100ft cable, heh.
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Cross-over cable is the perfect way into networking
It is incredibly easy and if you updgrade later a crossover cable is a useful thing to have anyways for those times when you need to hook a couple of PCs together in an unlikely circumstance, particularly if you are a laptopper
Anyways, it really is as simple as pluging the cable in at both ends, firing up Home Networking Wizard on the PCs and sharing your connection.
About the router stuff, if you have survived up until now without one, sharing your connection this way will leave you at the exact same level of security before. But if you are using a software firewall in windows, unless it is a particularly good one it may play silly buggers with your conection sharing. Just something to be careful of!
Have fun networking!
It is incredibly easy and if you updgrade later a crossover cable is a useful thing to have anyways for those times when you need to hook a couple of PCs together in an unlikely circumstance, particularly if you are a laptopper
Anyways, it really is as simple as pluging the cable in at both ends, firing up Home Networking Wizard on the PCs and sharing your connection.
About the router stuff, if you have survived up until now without one, sharing your connection this way will leave you at the exact same level of security before. But if you are using a software firewall in windows, unless it is a particularly good one it may play silly buggers with your conection sharing. Just something to be careful of!
Have fun networking!
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