"Life and its building blocks are way too complicated to have evolved." [moved]

[-57]

And yet they got everything regarding biology, geology, geography and every single facet of science wrong.
If God did inspire them, why did they get so much stuff wrong then?

That's been explained to you ad nauseam.....It's really not my problem if you continue to remain unlearned on the subjects.

 

[doubtingmerle]

Are you talking about the so-called 60 million + year old rocks that contain soft dinosaur tissue?

I am talking about all the rocks down there. When a layer is tested with different methods, it consistently yield the same age.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's been explained to you ad nauseam.....It's really not my problem if you continue to remain unlearned on the subjects.

You've shown nothing but your own ad-hoc logic to try and protect your own ingrained notion that the Bible can never be wrong, even when you have been shown repeatedly that you are in the wrong.

 

[-57]

We do see buffalo and penguins in the same geologic time frame, not in the same physical location.

We do not see dimetrodon (a mammal-like reptile) , abbulocetus (a marine transitional mammal) , and dolphin fossils in the same geologic time frame.

They all lived together as contemporaries....for the most part they were buried according to their biome.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They all lived together as contemporaries....for the most part they were buried according to their biome.

Absolute codswallop.

 

[-57]

I am talking about all the rocks down there. When a layer is tested with different methods, it consistently yield the same age.

Until the soft dino tissue confirms the false old ages....where your old earth ages fail miserably.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Until the soft dino tissue confirms the false old ages....where your old earth ages fail miserably.

You have been shown repeatedly why 'soft' tissue exists and why it doesn't falsify an old earth, but you, as usual, completely ignore it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And that changes nothing to the fact that we don't see any hills or mountains in the historical geological record be covered by over 600 metres of water in the last 6,000 years, especially not in the Middle East.

The Euphrates river flooded and water overflowed the hills along the river. This is why they call this the Tigris-Euphrates River Valley. There is no reason to believe the flood was anywhere else other then Noah's world which would have been the Valley that we find there in Ancient Mesopotamia between the rivers.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The Euphrates river flooded and water overflowed the hills along the river. This is why they call this the Tigris-Euphrates River Valley. There is no reason to believe the flood was anywhere else other then Noah's world which would have been the Valley that we find there in Ancient Mesopotamia between the rivers.

And yet none of the geological evidence shows any hills or mountains being covered by over 600 metres of water.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And yet none of the geological evidence shows any hills or mountains being covered by over 600 metres of water.

The only evidence for a flood that lines up with the Noah's flood in the Bible is the flood layer in Ur.

http://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/reflections-on-the-mesopotamian-flood/

 

[pshun2404]

You think eukaryotic cells evolved first?

No! They did not "evolve" from something less (they would have . All these things would have had to came into existence Simultaneously...now RE-Read what I wrote because if one could not ask such a question based on what I had written unless one of two things is the case

a) one is trying to cause an unnecessary dialogue where none is merited, OR
b) the mind of the one commenting is incapable of processing the logic (most likely indoctrinated as opposed to educated)

In your case I think it is a)....here it is in a nutshell

No cell (with its various subsystems, enzymes, t-RNA, m-RNA, etc., all in place) then there is no functional DNA...while at the same time, no functional DNA there can be no cell because it codes for all the proteins the cell is made of....

Analogically speaking, the question is NOT chicken OR egg, the facts we ACTUALLY have dictate chicken and egg originally became at the same time...not one before the other...the Eukaryotic Cell (as an environment) could not have developed without the DNA in place, and the DNA does not exist outside of the environment of the cell...so do you get the point now?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Then show us how the motor protein evolved.

I have shown you a brief outline of how the motor protein evolved, using only known scientific processes.

Now please show me your outline of how the first motor protein came into existence so we can compare your explanation with mine.

 

[doubtingmerle]

No! They did not "evolve" from something less. All these thigns would havce had to came into existence Simultaneously

Odd that. If humans came into existence hundreds of millions of years ago, how did they all evade the fossil record for hundreds of millions of years?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The only evidence for a flood that lines up with the Noah's flood in the Bible is the flood layer in Ur.

http://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/reflections-on-the-mesopotamian-flood/

Are you reading what I'm writing? I am clearly saying that there is no geological evidence that any mountains or hills in the Middle East were covered by water by 600 metres.

 

[TheQuietRiot]

I think it is simply wonderful and very telling that these "debates" seem to be confined to internet forums and are no longer treated with any seriousness in scientific circles.

It took a long time for the church to accept that the Sun does not revolve around the Earth. It's probably going to take just as long for some members of the church to accept evolution.

Keep trying guys, you'll get there eventually

 

[AV1611VET]

When a layer is tested with different methods, it consistently yield the same age.

After how many tries?

 

[AV1611VET]

It took a long time for the church to accept that the Sun does not revolve around the Earth.

And how long did it take Galileo's contemporary scientists to accept his finding(s)?

 

[USincognito]

I could make the same type of chart with extant animals. You've shown nothing.

Then do it.

 

[USincognito]

Mt Everest wasn't there prior to the flood. Your point fails.

It's so easy to argue when you can just make stuff up.

 

[USincognito]

All you have done is lined up animal fossils in an order you believe shows evolutionism. You simply assume the differences are due to evolutionism.

Ah, you didn't understand the content of the cladegram. That explains a lot, but isn't a big surprise.