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Problem is you can not demonstrate that anything is false. You do not even try because you know that you would fail in your attempt.Science usually doesn't take into consideration those things which are demonstrably false.
Collins talks about founder effect and common ancestor but that is not what we are talking about here. When I ask for an example of a beneficial mutation people want to talk about Sickle Cell Disease. Most mutations are either neutral or harmful. So called beneficial mutations are rare. So what you end up with is what they call frameshift which is more like reshuffling a deck of cards then a mistake or error.
The idea of entropy comes from a principle of thermodynamics dealing with energy. It usually refers to the idea that everything in the universe eventually moves from order to disorder, and entropy is the measurement of that change. If the universe created itself then the universe would move from disorder to order, not the other way around. Chemical bonds tend not to be stable and this causes decay that is steady and measurable.Que? What outside force??
I dispute random mutations. I do not consider frameshift to be random. I consider this to be a part of the design that was there from the beginning. All the building blocks were there from the beginning. The laws that regulate them were there from the beginning.Collins also talks about the effects of beneficial mutations.
Do you dispute this?
I dispute random mutations. I do not consider frameshift to be random. I consider this to be a part of the design that was there from the beginning. All the building blocks were there from the beginning. The laws that regulate them were there from the beginning.
It's a measure of the disorder, not the change in disorder.The idea of entropy comes from a principle of thermodynamics dealing with energy. It usually refers to the idea that everything in the universe eventually moves from order to disorder, and entropy is the measurement of that change.
What makes you think so?If the universe created itself then the universe would move from disorder to order, not the other way around.
Molecules didn't form until at least 400,000 years after it all started, and then only hydrogen and helium.Chemical bonds tend not to be stable and this causes decay that is steady and measurable.
Did you know that we have used radiation to cause random mutations in at least 3,000 crop plants to generate new varieties? They go through around 10,000 to one million mutants to select the right one. That gave us red grapefruit, varieties of rice, wheat, barley, pears, peas, cotton, peppermint, sunflowers, peanuts, sesame, bananas, cassava, sorghum, and disease-resistant cocoa. The mutant wheat is used for bread and pasta and the mutant barley for beer and fine whiskey. It's called mutation breeding (mutagenesis), and these days it's relatively easy to see where in the genome the mutations have occurred and even discover how they take effect.I dispute random mutations. I do not consider frameshift to be random. I consider this to be a part of the design that was there from the beginning. All the building blocks were there from the beginning. The laws that regulate them were there from the beginning.
Sorry, but science absolutely does take the law of increasing entropy (disorder) into account. It knows all about how hot objects lose energy to cold objects, and how this causes a net increase in the entropy of the universe (second law of thermodynamics).The fall is something that science does not take into consideration at all. We know that cold sucks the energy out of hot, the universe goes from order to disorder or entropy.
Change that story to past tense, please. We know that the universe required a source of energy to get started. Once it got started, it has no need for energy to keep going (although it is possible that dark energy is still being added to the universe.) And how the universe got its original burst of energy is a different topic for a different thread. Stay with the topic, please.This in and of itself is an argument for God because the universe is required to have an outside force in order for it to work.
We do not know that the energy comes from the God of the Bible. But we do know that the system requires an energy outside of the system.
Not all houses are falling down. Some houses are being built. A good builder can build a house, even though the forces of nature lead to decay. Likewise, the laws of nature are quite good at using the natural forces of nature to build things that have order.We have to build a house the house does not build itself. Then once the house is built it starts to decay. The atoms themselves do not have perfect bonds and they tend to fall about.
Collins talks about founder effect and common ancestor but that is not what we are talking about here
Bacteria evolved a trait that opened up a whole new metabolism. It's called nylonese.When I ask for an example of a beneficial mutation people want to talk about Sickle Cell Disease
Most mutations are either neutral or harmful. So called beneficial mutations are rare.
So what you end up with is what they call frameshift which is more like reshuffling a deck of cards then a mistake or error.
Problem is you can not demonstrate that anything is false.
The idea of entropy comes from a principle of thermodynamics dealing with energy. It usually refers to the idea that everything in the universe eventually moves from order to disorder, and entropy is the measurement of that change. If the universe created itself then the universe would move from disorder to order, not the other way around. Chemical bonds tend not to be stable and this causes decay that is steady and measurable.
I dispute random mutations. I do not consider frameshift to be random. I consider this to be a part of the design that was there from the beginning. All the building blocks were there from the beginning. The laws that regulate them were there from the beginning.
You keep playing loose with these definitions, so please verify what you mean. When science refers to a "common ancestor", it means that all modern life evolved from a single one-celled organism. Every zebra, every crocodile, every oak tree, every mushroom, every starfish, everything, evolved from a single common ancestor of all species. The potato is a distant, distant relative of the skunk. That is what we mean by "common ancestor".Do you know the difference between cause and effect. I do not disagree with common ancestor.
That's odd, because I live in a world of mistakes, errors and mutations. And we can even calculate the rate of failure of mechanical parts or mutations based on statistical methods. If God has no room for these things, how can I calculate them?The Bible says that God knows the end from the beginning. That does not leave any room for mistakes, errors or mutations.
I gave you 29 reasons. 29 is not zilch. Would you like to take those 29 reasons one at at time, and discuss if they are indeed evidence for evolution of all life from a single common ancestor?You have presented your hypothesize and not you have to test your hypothesis and prove that it is true. If you think that science gives a prize for people when they come up with a hypothese your wrong. You get the prize when you are able to prove your hypothesis is accurate or true. Right now you have come up with zip, zero, zilch, nothing in the way of evidence for your theory.
How would you know?Running for cover is the Christian way it seems.
That question has what to do with the topic?Please point out to us where you think God is present?
Then evolutionism isn't science, because they need to believe the opposite happened naturally.Sorry, but science absolutely does take the law of increasing entropy (disorder) into account.
Then evolutionism isn't science, because they need to believe the opposite happened naturally.
Then evolutionism isn't science,
Collins talks about founder effect and common ancestor but that is not what we are talking about here. When I ask for an example of a beneficial mutation people want to talk about Sickle Cell Disease.
That question has what to do with the topic?
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