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Because belief in it is a catastrophe?It's not called "catastrophism" for nothing.
Why not? If you have the complete genome sequence of both parents and the child, then you can identify every single mutation that occurs, since you know the initial and final states of the genome. This kind of study has been done multiple times with similar answers.
A fact that has no bearing on the validity of the estimate. You are at liberty to reject any aspects of reality you don't like. Just don't expect anyone else to care.
And your appalling ignorance was corrected just a few messages later. I suggest you go back and read. But to summarise.....
1. The point of endogenous retriviral insertion is NOT about any subsequent function. It is about the LOCATION of those insertions. You can't explain that.
2. The second part of your message has nothing to do with endogenous retroviruses. You've included it as a red herring.
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Seriously, I wouldn't waste any more time feeding the trolls. I counted at least 15 different alerts from the same individual under my alert tab in under 24 hours, at which point I just ignored them. The fact that some of these atheists come to a Christian forum, obsessively argue their non-Christian point, and obviously have no regard for the Bible, should be a clear enough indicator of a troll. Let's not continue to feed them.
Oh dear......
I'm done.
For starters try exploring the 5 alleged extinction events...after you have pondered those with objectivity come back and seek me out for more
Seriously, we are wasting our time here just as much as they are. Their faith is in the theory of evolution. They will never be able to disprove God just as much as we will never be able to scientifically prove God using the same standards.
To support the insertion claim one would first have to prove the same type of creature existed first without them and then they are there...show us some early homo-sapien's DNA that does not have them, and then later homo sapiens that have them, and then "insertion" may be an appropriate and accurate term
steveB28....the same is true for MOST of what are called "deletions"....to actually be deletions one would have to show they were formerly a normal presence and now they are not....in most cases (not all, there are a few) this cannot be shown by evidence to be true....yet the belief is swallowed whole....via appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum (two logic fallacies)
As I previously pointed out....you are assuming the last 3 generations...were the same a 100 generations ago.
We know something changed because after the flood the life spans shortened...then after the days of Peleg, they shortened again.
Bottom line...you haven't convinced me your mutation rate is as linear as you say it is. Your model is built on speculation.
Absolutely not....the reason you are poo pooing this is because there are NO such examples
If you say so. Keep in mind you haven't demonstrated that what you said is what is reality.
Ah, but we would then let facts, measurements, and observations get in the way of a good story?Those remnant insertions are THERE! We can MEASURE them! We can OBSERVE them! They are present!
Incredible.....the wilfull ignorance is almost mind-boggling.
Those remnant insertions are THERE! We can MEASURE them! We can OBSERVE them! They are present! And we know that they are viral insertions, because we still have people/ other animals being infected with retroviruses TODAY! Have you ever heard of HIV, perhaps!?
And, the overarching point here is the LOCATION of those insertions. The human genome has, I believe over 3 billion base pairs in it - a huge variety of locations for these insertions to have placed themselves. We find that there are tens of thousands of these insertions that we share with the other primates......and that they are found in IDENTICAL LOCATIONS IN THE GENOME!
But please, continue to skirt around the gigantic trumpeting elephant occupying your living room.....!
Great! Now show some ancient or even quite old sapien genome examples where specific ones are not present and then they are...so we can see they ARE actual insertions....a few comparative examples from the ones shared should suffice.
Great! Now show some ancient or even quite old sapien genome examples where specific ones are not present and then they are...so we can see they ARE actual insertions....a few comparative examples from the ones shared should suffice.
Great! Now show some ancient or even quite old sapien genome examples where specific ones are not present and then they are...so we can see they ARE actual insertions....a few comparative examples from the ones shared should suffice.
We know something changed because after the flood the life spans shortened...then after the days of Peleg, they shortened again.
Bottom line...you haven't convinced me your mutation rate is as linear as you say it is. Your model is built on speculation.
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