Liberals and supporting the President

[ScottBot]

We should be discussing orthodox vs heterodox theology in this forum, not secular issues.

 

[mike1reynolds]

what does liberalism have to do with the Quaran?

Carey was arguing that the proper understanding of the Middle East conflict requires an understanding of the Qur'an, and that when this is taken into account it invalidates the liberal position on the war. There is considerable merit to this argument, although it does not address the irrationally of initially invading Iraq.

 

[Carey]

Surah 8 verse 39 makes it plain but ina nother transaltion even plainer

Forgive them if they will become "believrs" (or convert to Islam)

But what does say to do if they dont?

Let all who can hear listen God bless,
carey

 

[mike1reynolds]

This thread more appropriately belongs in a politcs forum.

We are covering some theological topics here, it is a mix. Admittedly a lot of Carey’s topics are very political in nature. I only participate if there is a theological take on the issue that can be discussed.

 

[Carey]

we had many reasons but the main reason that is obvious but has not been said was to get our troops in stiking range of to more major problems.

Iran and Syrias Governments who do not deny suppoting Hezzbulla and
terroristic warfare.

 

[ScottBot]

The theological premise of this thread would be that Islam has a mandate to fly the flag of Islam over the whole world. Whereas we Christians have a mandate from Christ to bring the Gospel to the whole world. The world cannot be BOTH Muslim and Christian, they are incompatible religions.

 

[ScottBot]

No germane to a theological discussion.

 

[Carey]

is relavant because of the theologies of the opposing sides on the direction of this post.
You can obviously see that Scott , Can't you?

 

[mike1reynolds]

Christianity is not a religion of world domination. The Jews wanted Christ to be a warrior king and conquer Rome, but that was not His path.

 

[Carey]

with all other philosphies.

Islam can be compatible with none

 

[mike1reynolds]

is relavant because of the theologies of the opposing sides on the direction of this post.
You can obviously see that Scott , Can't you?

Scott is referring to your last comment that time, not the whole thread.

 

[ScottBot]

is relavant because of the theologies of the opposing sides on the direction of this post.
You can obviously see that Scott , Can't you?

I posted the theological premise of this thread. Islam and Christianity BOTh have mandates to evangelize the world, but they are mutually exclusive religions. One cannot be Muslim and Christian, and the theological underpinnings of each faith require you to deny the other.

 

[ScottBot]

Christianity is not a religion of world domination. The Jews wanted Christ to be a warrior king and conquer Rome, but that was not His path.

Understood, you still have to decide to follow Christ or follow Muhammed.

 

[mike1reynolds]

I agree, Islam was specifically designed by the demon that spoke it to Mohammed, and the design was for a religion that was exclusively an antitheology. It was designed to be as politically opposite to every other religion on the planet as possible. Not in terms of con/lib but in terms of being set up to oppose every other theology. Islam has virtually no points of theological agreement with any other religion, other than the belief in God itself, which is the only thing that really makes it a religion.

 

[ScottBot]

I agree, Islam was specifically designed by the demon that spoke it to Mohammed, and the design was for a religion that was exclusively an antitheology. It was designed to be as politically opposite to every other religion on the planet as possible. Not in terms of con/lib but in terms of being set up to oppose every other theology. Islam has virtually no points of theological agreement with any other religion, other than the belief in God itself, which is the only thing that really makes it a religion.

I'll agree with that.

 

[Carey]

Dont try to terrorise you into converting like Muslims do.

Which bye the way has been very effective in the middle east.Christians are running out of Lebanon the only Christian country left in the middle east.

In Africa Muslims are Buthcering Christians across the continent.

OUr Presidents (THEOLGY TO STAY ON TOPIC) is our only course of action

 

[mike1reynolds]

Understood, you still have to decide to follow Christ or follow Muhammed.

But in more general theological terms, Christianity does not reject every non-Christian theology. Some are very similar, to reject them would be to reject the same aspects in Christianity.

Islam is unique in that it is the only religion with virtually no theological overlap with Christianity. That is a very telling sign about what its source is.

 

[ScottBot]

I guess we have to decide at what point we have to take Christ seriously when he said that we would have to sell our shirts to buy a sword.

Christ did promise that the end of the world would end in a battle of his followers vs the followers of the beast. Maybe the Anti-Christ will come from the middle east, not eastern europe as Jerry Jenkins predicts. Maybe Ahmedenijan is the Beast.

 

[ScottBot]

Actually, the koran refers to Jesus as the Messiah on numerous occations, they just don't give credit where credit is due, and give him the honor He deserves as the holder of that title.

 

[mike1reynolds]

Nostradamus predicted that the first antichrist would be named Nah Poe Leon, and the second would have a name like the river Hister. He said the third would have an unpronounceable Arabic name.