Liberal..

[visionary]

Midrash teaches us to respect differing viewpoints, the free exchange of ideas, dialogue, debate, inquiry, investigation, and interpretation. Over the last few years, the social-justice movement within the Jewish community and across the nation has dominated conversations. Tikkun Olam (repairing the world) as the major expression of Judaism was now mandated, not a choice. The once-peaceful and spiritual atmosphere at my synagogue disappeared.

 

[HARK!]

The once-peaceful and spiritual atmosphere at my synagogue disappeared.

How has it destroyed the peace?

 

[visionary]

Fellowship is divided along party lines.

 

[St. Helens]

Politics can be divisive, which is sad.

 

[bèlla]

I’m sorry you’re experiencing this. I pray that peace is restored and all divisions are set aside.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[AbbaLove]

Fellowship is divided along party lines.

Does this also include these "party lines": Ultra Orthodox, Orthodox, Conservative and Reform ...
even Conservative Judaism is looked upon as being too "liberal" by some Jews

Midrash teaches us to respect differing viewpoints, the free exchange of ideas, dialogue, debate, inquiry, investigation, and interpretation.

Are we also referring to these "party lines": Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes and Zealots.

 

[visionary]

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Does this also include these "party lines": Ultra Orthodox, Orthodox, Conservative and Reform ...
even Conservative Judaism is looked upon as being too "liberal" by some Jews

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Are we also referring to these "party lines": Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes and Zealots.

I guess I was to broad sweeping a trend, like the media does for different reasons.

 

[GedaliahMaegil]

** MJ reponses only **

The first reference to tikkun olam is in Mishnah Gittin 4:2 ...

בָּרִאשׁוֹנָה הָיָה עוֹשֶׂה בֵית דִּין בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר וּמְבַטְּלוֹ. הִתְקִין רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הַזָּקֵן שֶׁלֹּא יְהוּ עוֹשִׂין כֵּן, מִפְּנֵי תִקּוּן הָעוֹלָם. בָּרִאשׁוֹנָה הָיָה מְשַׁנֶּה שְׁמוֹ וּשְׁמָהּ, שֵׁם עִירוֹ וְשֵׁם עִירָהּ. וְהִתְקִין רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הַזָּקֵן שֶׁיְּהֵא כוֹתֵב, אִישׁ פְּלוֹנִי וְכָל שֵׁם שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ, אִשָּׁה פְלוֹנִית וְכָל שׁוּם שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהּ, מִפְּנֵי תִקּוּן הָעוֹלָם:

Originally, a husband would bring together a court wherever he was and annul the get. Rabban Gamaliel the Elder established that this should not be done, because of “tikkun olam”. Originally the husband would change his name, or his wife’s name, or the name of his town or of his wife’s town. Rabban Gamaliel the Elder established that he should write, “The man so-and-so or any name that he has,”; “the woman so-and-so or any name that she has,” because of “tikkun olam.”

There is so much wrong here ...

That a get would be annulled after its being handed to a wife, in violation of Torah, is considered תּוֹעֵבַה (abomination; cf. Devarim 24:1-4). That only a name change would be considered as a loophole is horrific.

We know what Yeshua - who magnified Torah and made her honourable again - said about divorce. From the beginning it was not this way. If matters of divorce are being used in reference to tikkun olam, I tell you honestly these things in no way "repair the world".

We pray the Aleinu, hoping for what is truly a repairing of the world, when we will see the glory of His strength, that all idols be removed from the earth, that all false gods be cut off completely, that the world will be perfected in His Kingdom. This is the tikkun olam that we hope for.

Substituting every social justice fad out there in the world for the true tikkun olam haba is just futile. How can the ways of the world ever possibly be used to repair it?

 

[St. Helens]

31 “It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a get.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, makes her an adulteress; and that anyone who marries a divorcee commits adultery. - Mattityahu 5:31

I do not see how advocacy of adultery would heal our world.

 

[visionary]

** MJ reponses only **

The first reference to tikkun olam is in Mishnah Gittin 4:2 ...



There is so much wrong here ...

That a get would be annulled after its being handed to a wife, in violation of Torah, is considered תּוֹעֵבַה (abomination; cf. Devarim 24:1-4). That only a name change would be considered as a loophole is horrific.

We know what Yeshua - who magnified Torah and made her honourable again - said about divorce. From the beginning it was not this way. If matters of divorce are being used in reference to tikkun olam, I tell you honestly these things in no way "repair the world".

We pray the Aleinu, hoping for what is truly a repairing of the world, when we will see the glory of His strength, that all idols be removed from the earth, that all false gods be cut off completely, that the world will be perfected in His Kingdom. This is the tikkun olam that we hope for.

Substituting every social justice fad out there in the world for the true tikkun olam haba is just futile. How can the ways of the world ever possibly be used to repair it?

good point...

 

[visionary]

Tikkun olam (Hebrew: תיקון עולם‎, lit. 'repair of the world') is a concept in Judaism, interpreted by some within Orthodox Judaism as the prospect of overcoming all forms of idolatry,[1] and by other Jewish thinkers as an aspiration to behave and act constructively and beneficially.[2]

I got the concept from here Tikkun olam - Wikipedia. , because the behavior in the synagogue along party lines is not beneficial for all. When the adherence to a party irregardless of behavior, attitudes, and thinking by party leaders is contrary to the Word of God, it is a form of idolatry.

 

[HARK!]

Tikkun olam (Hebrew: תיקון עולם‎, lit. 'repair of the world') is a concept in Judaism, interpreted by some within Orthodox Judaism as the prospect of overcoming all forms of idolatry,[1] and by other Jewish thinkers as an aspiration to behave and act constructively and beneficially.[2]

I got the concept from here Tikkun olam - Wikipedia. , because the behavior in the synagogue along party lines is not beneficial for all. When the adherence to a party irregardless of behavior, attitudes, and thinking by party leaders is contrary to the Word of God, it is a form of idolatry.

Secular governments have historically been one of the biggest idols that the world has faced.

 

[St. Helens]

We are ruled by the government above - of Yeshua - he is our king. Not Trump, Biden or any earthly leader.

 

[AbbaLove]

Tikkun Olam (repairing the world) as the major expression of Judaism was now mandated, not a choice. The once-peaceful and spiritual atmosphere at my synagogue disappeared.

Is Tikkun Olam (repairing the world) even possible within mainline Judaism? For one thing there is no longer a Temple in Jerusalem and for another reason Judaism (some Orthodox, Conservative and Reform) doesn't believe that Yeshua is Israel's Messiah.

Isn't one of the reasons many religious Jews are democrats is not so much that they favor progressive/liberal socialism, but rather because they associate republicans with evangelical Christians. Whereas, don't the majority of MJs favor the republican party's platform (even if they can't stand Trump).

Tikkun Olam is only possible with the return of Yeshua HaMashiach to establish His Kingdom on a restored new earth.

 

[visionary]

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Is Tikkun Olam (repairing the world) even possible within mainline Judaism? For one thing there is no longer a Temple in Jerusalem and for another reason Judaism (some Orthodox, Conservative and Reform) doesn't believe that Yeshua is Israel's Messiah.

Isn't one of the reasons many religious Jews are democrats is not so much that they favor progressive/liberal socialism, but rather because they associate republicans with evangelical Christians. Whereas, don't the majority of MJs favor the republican party's platform (even if they can't stand Trump).

Tikkun Olam is only possible with the return of Yeshua HaMashiach to establish His Kingdom on a restored new earth.

True... but you keep looking at your fellow "believers" [May not believe in the Messiah Yeshua but they do believe in God] for His character to show through in them, at least I do. That may be my falacy.