LGBT

JimR-OCDS said:

Homosexuality and transgenderism are lifestyles. Just as heterosexuality is a lifestyle.

We follow the lifestyle according to our desires.

The lawsuits I'm referencing have nothing to do with the beliefs themselves, but as a way of getting
economic revenge by gay activists. This happened in my dioceses and has happened to other Christian
institutions. Heck, my parish even had protesters trying to keep parishioners from signing a petition for
the state government to recognize that marriage is between one man and one woman. Of course the
head of the State Senate, ignored the petition, until he ended up in jail for a different reason. The
Senate voted down the request by the citizens. But this is the People's Republic of Massachusetts.

Sexual orientation itself is not a sin, but the act is.


Anal copulation is a direct sin whether the act is committed by two gay men, or a man and a woman.

People tend to ignore this part of homosexual acts, which are unhealthy to both the couple involved
and others when proper hygiene is not followed.

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Please explain to me how sexual orientation is a lifestyle, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual etc. are plain human attraction, a lifestyle is how someone lives. The petition you are talking about is a valid reason for protestors to protest. They are preventing you from signing the petition because they want homosexual marriage rights just as much as you want heterosexual marriage rights and your homophobia is what prevents that. Many people think LGBTQ+ activists want more rights than cishet people, instead we just want equal rights for everybody. Also you are saying that being gay is not a sin but acting upon gay desires is. Does this mean if a gay person falls in love with another gay person they have already committed sin? Or is the sin intercourse or sexual interaction between the two. The logic you are following is it is okay to be gay but you must never date or fall in love with anyone, how is this fair? If the trinity loves Us and governs us like parents wouldn’t it be their job to love who you love?

River__raine said:

Please explain to me how sexual orientation is a lifestyle, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual etc. are plain human attraction, a lifestyle is how someone lives. The petition you are talking about is a valid reason for protestors to protest. They are preventing you from signing the petition because they want homosexual marriage rights just as much as you want heterosexual marriage rights and your homophobia is what prevents that. Many people think LGBTQ+ activists want more rights than cishet people, instead we just want equal rights for everybody. Also you are saying that being gay is not a sin but acting upon gay desires is. Does this mean if a gay person falls in love with another gay person they have already committed sin? Or is the sin intercourse or sexual interaction between the two. The logic you are following is it is okay to be gay but you must never date or fall in love with anyone, how is this fair? If the trinity loves Us and governs us like parents wouldn’t it be their job to love who you love?

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The lifestyle is how they live and for gays, the live in a homosexual lifestyle where they are involved with other homosexuals. There
are even gay hookup sites that homosexuals frequent to get connected with other homosexuals for sex. This is according to a
homosexual on another forum in Christian Forums.

LGBTQ don't want just rights that married heterosexuals have, they want equal acceptance as a moral lifestyle, which it is not.

Back when the state of Vermont passed a civil union law, which gave homosexuals all the rights that married heterosexuals have,
they rejected it. They want same-sex marriage to be accepted as the moral equivalent, not just legal rights.

You can argue about this all you want, but until anyone can justify anal copulation as being natural and an expression of
love between a couple, you'll only be rejecting what God has designed from the beginning. Anal sex is what is done to
another, not the unitive expression of love as between a man and a woman.

All I can speak from is my own personal experience, what I see in the news, and what the Bible says.

As for my own personal experience, when the so-called gay rights movement began, I was kind of sympathetic as they presented themselves as being victims.

Bullies often like to present themselves as being victims. The LGBT movement is overflowing with bullies. They even try to tell you what pronouns you should use.

A man with a penis is declared a champion in women’s swimming. Some male students who call themselves trans invade the locker rooms of women athletes, and girls’ restrooms in schools. (And oh yeah, how do you know that they’re gay? Did anyone have any real investigation? No all you have to do is say that you’re gay and all of a sudden the presumed to be martyrs and heroes are able to trample on other peoples rights.)

In one case recently, a girl student was raped in the bathroom by a boy who came in wearing a dress. And the school board took action against the girl and her father, because of their complaints! They were further victimizing the victims.

I believe that young children and teens are being bullied when they are being forced in schools to listen to gay and lesbian and so on propaganda.

And how sick is it for them to want to pump young people with hormones, and even sometimes to encourage them to cut off their penises?

In my own personal life, I have been bullied by gay women. I was in two different work situations. In each case for years things were lovely. Then a new administration was brought in and they were obviously gay.

in each case, the new regime tried to make life really unpleasant for those who were not gay, even if we said nothing about their sexual preferences. They wanted us out! And with me, they even went to the length of sexually harassing me through several women.

Christ said that in the last days it would be as in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

If anyone thinks that Soddom and Gomorrah are just myths, and not object lessons, I suggest they watch some videos of those two cities which have been found mostly buried in sulfur and ash just like the Bible says, unlike any other places on the planet.

Ron Wyatt has an especially good documentary. If you don’t like Ron Wyatt, oh well. I think he actually heard about Sodom and Gomorrah, and the ruins there, from someone earlier . But the pictures are what tell the story.

I have seen some LGBT people acting like Christ is all in favor of them. Well, he may love them, but the Bible makes it totally clear that whenever he spoke of Sodom and Gomorrah it was in a negative context, way negative.

I certainly don’t think we should hate gay people. We shouldn’t hate anyone! But we also shouldn’t just accept it when they try to bully and abuse people and trample on HETEROSEXUAL rights.

When I see people getting into long diatribes with LGBT persons, lecturing them about biology and science, I think it is more than a waste of time. I think the LGBT people are enjoying others being upset with their refusal to admit basic common sense truths about gender.

Bullies like upsetting people.

If anyone wants to tell me I need to be more sympathetic, again I started out being sympathetic. I don’t think LGBT people need sympathy so much as they need the Lord.

Having said that, since Christ said the last days would be as in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, I actually expect things to get worse overall. So sad. For them as well as for us straight people.

What I see is a concerted effort to conglomerate a slew of genders and sexual orientations, including heterosexuallity, into one big indefinable ball of wax.

It is interesting how much satan's kingdoms occupy christian thoughts and how many spend their time trying to straighten up the kingdom's of satan. I guess many christians are left to pursing this activity and other ones, as many simply do not know how to tell unbelievers how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. So I guess they must find something to occupy their time.

For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

River__raine said:

I am bisexual and I do not believe there is anything wrong with it, I am still Christian and believe god is the almighty father. I understand what it’s like to feel same sex attraction and know it is not possible to change, if I were to love my neighbour as myself I would love and support them regardless of what gender they love.

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Like quite a few who are in the LGBT camp you are calling yourself a Christian.

What is a Christian? A Christian is someone who follows, who believes in, Christ.

Christ made it very clear that the fate of those in Sodom and Gomorrah was eternal damnation.

I’m sorry dear but you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

You say you can’t change. No, it seems unlikely that you can.

But the Lord can change you! And that only if you turn to him in all sincerity. Others have changed. Very many.

I pray you will learn to take the Savior seriously and let him save you. He said what he meant, and he meant what he said.

As I mentioned in a post on this thread, yesterday, there are actual highly visible remains of Sodom and Gomorrah. They were overlooked by people for many centuries, until it was discovered that those two cities were mostly obscured by sulfur and ash, as the Bible says, unlike any other places on the entire planet.

Ron Wyatt has a terrific hour 45 minute video on the remains of Soddom and Gomorrah, showing many buildings and artifacts.

I pray you will see and get free.

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