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This stuff measures distance, not time.
Can God create a star tomorrow a fifty light years away, with it's light shinning on the earth?
Really?Not without embedding 50 years of false history into that light.
Strathos is stating the obvious. The lies inserted into the universe have to also lie about the history of the universe to various extents.Really?
But from a myopic perspective.Strathos is stating the obvious.
You should retract the lie of a " myopic perspective".But from a myopic perspective.
I bumped this thread, just for you:You should retract the lie of a " myopic perspective".
Irrelevant so just for you:I bumped this thread, just for you:
Strathos knows what I'm talking about, so don't blow a gasket.
What you imagine Strathos to know does not alter what you wrote in this thread. You lied about a "myopic perspective" for the posts in this thread. Thus my reasonable and calm request:Strathos knows what I'm talking about, so don't blow a gasket.
That's a reportable offense, RC.What you imagine Strathos to know does not alter what you wrote in this thread. You lied about a "myopic perspective" for the posts in this thread. Thus my reasonable and calm request:
13 June 2018 AV1611VET: Please retract the "myopic perspective" lie.
Really?
What's Jacob's ladder then?
46 billion light years of embedded history as well?
I never questions how long orbits in the fishbowl took. How ridiculous a claim.The questioner would be you. Who cares would be anyone who knows about the real world and so are applied at the ignorance the question implies.
Never even thought such foolishness.You are the one implying that it is impossible to measure 6 months between the 2 measurements needed for the best parallax measurements here on Earth.
Well, my case is that science does not know what time is like in deep space. Only here do we experience time.On the other hand, your posts do contain some incoherent stuff about time here on Earth so I better give you a chance to state your case clearly.
False! When we take our hand and a mountain or tree or something on earth, that is all known to be in the same time and space.First what happens in the real world yet again!
Parallax is a purely geometrical effect of a close object appearing to move against a distant background. Take your hand. Put your thumb up. Hold your thumb at arms length and keep the thumb still. Shut one eye. Note the position of your thumb against the background. Close that eye and open the other eye. See that your thumb appears to move. If you measured the angle then it is simple trig to calculate how far your thumb is away from your eyes.
N.B. The only time involved is the time between making the measurements, e.g. changing eyes. It is deluded to assert that you measure any time between you and your thumb. Or that time magically changing between you and you thumb does anything to the measurement.
No. Of course we can.Parallax is a technique used in measuring distance here on Earth, e.g. coincidence rangefinder.
13 June 2018 dad: Do you deny that we can use parallax to measure terrestrial distances on Earth using time as it exists here in the Solar System?
Wrong. Drawing a line to a star reaches beyond where we know our time exists.The use of parallax in astronomy is the same except the time between measurements is longer to give a bigger angle.
Bingo. You only do so by faith.13 June 2018 dad: Do you deny that we can use parallax to measure astronomical distances on Earth using time as it exists here in the Solar System?
Strathos said:Not without embedding 50 years of false history into that light.Can God create a star tomorrow a fifty light years away, with it's light shinning on the earth?
RealityCheck01 said:Strathos is stating the obvious. The lies inserted into the universe have to also lie about the history of the universe to various extents.
For your example of a star 50 light years away, there is an additional lie about the motion of the star needing a Doppler shift lie.
Using stars tens and hundreds and thousands of light years away, God configured them in such a way as to convey the Gospel (Psalm 19).There is the reasonable logic to figure that there is light from stars so far away that it would take many many thousands of years to get here.
-_- it's deceptive if it is made to appear as if humans made it. For example, unlike a human, a deity that is omniscient and omnipotent could make a loaf of raisin bread that never loses mass despite it being consumed. What's the point in the deity making an entirely mundane loaf of bread, and how would anyone, believer or not, be expected to recognize that this particular loaf of bread was divine if there was nothing special about it?But from a myopic perspective.
It's the same logic that says God can't create a loaf of raisin bread in the wink of an eye without being deceptive, since raisins are aged grapes.
Good point!Also, I'd call wine "aged grapes". Raisins are dried grapes.
Funny thing about the raisin bread is that I am pretty sure that if someone walked up to you and claimed that god made a loaf of raisin bread and provided nothing but a story about it and an unremarkable loaf of bread to you that you wouldn't believe them.Good point!
Then report it and see what the moderators think.That's a reportable offense, RC.
This is the fact that God creating light from stars means God would also have to embed history into that light. I pointed out the fact that stars move and so God would add the appropriate Doppler shift for that movement. AV1611VET's reply included "46 billion light years of embedded history as well?" so I applied that false history appropriately. In addition God would have to fake the neutrinos and gravitational waves that we have observed.Not without embedding 50 years of false history into that light.
There is no physical line from the Earth to a star that any fact less time fantasies can affect.... Wrong. Drawing a line to a star reaches beyond where we know our time exists.
The Book of Psalms is the lyrics for songs by unknown authors, not the word of God. Psalm 19Using stars tens and hundreds and thousands of light years away, God configured them in such a way as to convey the Gospel (Psalm 19).
The opening verses of Psalm 19 present the heavenly bodies and their movement as a universal witness to the glory of God that is understood by people of every language.
Lambs do not have horns.
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