Let's try this again

[shinbits]

Being God, Christ would have come into the world only through a woman who would have agreed to participate.

Again, the second person of the blessed Trinity existed before Mary. The Word became flesh, Jesus Christ, after.

First of all, how many women would refuse birthing the Savior? Would you? Finding a willing woman wouldn't be a problem.

Secondly, you misquoted the Bible by way of omission. Shame, shame.

John 1:1
[ The Word Became Flesh ] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word (Christ) was there in the beginning of the world, with God. Christ later became flesh, but existed well before then.

Jesus said said in Luke 10:18: "He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."

Jesus existed before Mary, and was around to see Satan's fall from heaven. Unless you're calling Jesus a liar. And check here:

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 8:57-59 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

Jesus is saying he existed even before Abraham.

What you said about Christ existing after Mary is wrong to the point of being heresy.

 

[shinbits]

You know, I personally don't agree with the Immaculate Conception either

Nice to see a Catholic say that. Watch out, because lionroar's gonna call you an idiot, like he did with the other Catholic.

 

[laconicstudent]

Nice to see a Catholic say that. Watch out, because lionroar's gonna call you an idiot, like he did with the other Catholic.

And your basis for calling me Roman Catholic is..... what, exactly?

 

[shinbits]

And your basis for calling me Roman Catholic is..... what, exactly?

Just thought you were. If you're not, doesn't matter. It's still good that you said that.

 

[lionroar0]

First of all, how many women would refuse birthing the Savior? Finding a willing woman wouldn't be a problem.

Secondly, you misquoted the Bible by way of omission. Shame, shame.

John 1:1
[ The Word Became Flesh ] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word (Christ) was there in the beginning of the world, with God. Christ later became flesh, but existed well before then.

Jesus said said in Luke 10:18: "He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."

Jesus existed before Mary, and was around to see Satan's fall from heaven. Unless you're calling Jesus a liar. And check here:

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 8:57-59 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

Jesus is saying he existed even before Abraham.

What you said about Christ existing after Mary is wrong to the point of being heresy.

He's not denying that Jesus as divine God is not eternal. If fact he's has been explicit about it.

Jesus as the second person of the Trinity, who is 100% human and 100% God did not exist till He was born of Mary, because His human nature came from Mary..

Or if you prefer another way of saying it would be that the Jesus as the second person of the Trinity was not fully revealed as the Incarnation who is 100% human and 100% God. Till He was born of Mary. From who He got His human nature.

Also saying that another woman wold have given birth to Jesus us denying the mission that was given solely to Mary by God to give birth to Jesus.

 

[lionroar0]

I think some of this stuff is belongs in another an unorthodox forum.

 

[shinbits]

Also saying that another woman wold have given birth to Jesus us denying the mission that was given solely to Mary by God to give birth to Jesus.

God sent His Son to save the world. The way you're phrasing this makes it seem like you think our Salvation could've been stopped if Mary refused to take part. If you are, saying that God's plan to save the world could be stopped by one human, is blasphemous.

 

[lionroar0]

God sent His Son to save the world. The way you're phrasing this makes it seem like you think our Salvation could've been stopped if Mary refused to take part. If you are, saying that God's plan to save the world could be stopped by one human, is blasphemous.

What I'm saying is that it was Mary's God given mission to give birth to Jesus. This is a fact as it has already happened. It's in Scripture.

 

[FreeinChrist]

MOD HAT

That is enough. Closing this for review.​