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So you think God would never choose to do that? I don't understand. God talks to people plenty in the Bible.
I understand the dangers of thinking God's talking to you when he isn't. That's why you have to ask for confirmation and all that stuff. But can you tell me why God wouldn't want to talk to you? Because of Jesus we are pure; it's as if we have never sinned. We have been made worthy by the sacrifice of Jesus. Or am I wrong?
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"Despise not prophesyings.21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thes 5:20-21.
So receiving a prophetic word is just the beginning. I think we prove all things by - Foremost we have Holy Scripture, The Holy Spirit, prayer, hearing God’s voice for ourselves, spiritual discernment, confirmation (Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1), and Godly counsel (Prov 11:14).
In the meantime we could be preparing which includes studying Scripture (II Tim 2) because with each call there's a learning curve usually.
The verse that came to mind about the eagle is from "Exodus 19:4 "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself." But you would have to asks Yahweh if this is the interpretation of that portion of the vision.
As far as praying Scripture over your children, we were usually in such a hurry and how I wish that we had prayed with them at the beginning of their day such as - to follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. (II Tim 2).
So receiving a prophetic word is just the beginning. I think we prove all things by - Foremost we have Holy Scripture, The Holy Spirit, prayer, hearing God’s voice for ourselves, spiritual discernment, confirmation (Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1), and Godly counsel (Prov 11:14).
In the meantime we could be preparing which includes studying Scripture (II Tim 2) because with each call there's a learning curve usually.
The verse that came to mind about the eagle is from "Exodus 19:4 "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself." But you would have to asks Yahweh if this is the interpretation of that portion of the vision.
As far as praying Scripture over your children, we were usually in such a hurry and how I wish that we had prayed with them at the beginning of their day such as - to follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. (II Tim 2).
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A miracle-worker is known by her acts. As are prophets respected from their accuracy. That said, miracle-doers and prophets do exist even in the age of Grace, however the big question is, "Is your Mom one of them?" And if so, the much bigger question is, "Does she get this power from God?"
To each there is a spiritual gift, and one the gifts specified by Paul is that of prophecy, so yes, it does exist. I do believe in prophets. That said, I have a hard time believing that your mother is one, specifically because it is confined to a small area (like your family, and the immediate vicinity). This is because most OT prophets were given visions that had greater consequences and a grander scale than what is provided here. It was never self-oriented nor within their personal sphere, but was always intended to communicate God's word to people much away from their families.
Biblically, Prophecy is usually also linked to a specific function: to rebuke a people, to encourage them, or to warn them of things to come. As far as prosperity prophecies, the only ones I know are those that are about the new covenant. Also, she does not seem to use this "talent" to preach God's Word (only claiming this power is from Him). As such, I have doubts about its origin. Prophecy is different from fortune-telling. As such, these things may simply be a dream from another source, or the popular belief that there's a mind-link between mothers and children, it may also be an extraordinary talent that has no connection with God at all.
That said, I won't jump into conclusions. Let's just wait in case you miraculously become the President of the United States or something in a few years...
That said, make a good research on this new church. Use the Fruit of the Spirit test on it, and see if it is a church that follows the principles of Christ. Arm yourself properly with God's word before going in headlong to hear its deeper doctrines, as you need it to know what is true to the new covenant Christ gave us and what is not. Be well.
To each there is a spiritual gift, and one the gifts specified by Paul is that of prophecy, so yes, it does exist. I do believe in prophets. That said, I have a hard time believing that your mother is one, specifically because it is confined to a small area (like your family, and the immediate vicinity). This is because most OT prophets were given visions that had greater consequences and a grander scale than what is provided here. It was never self-oriented nor within their personal sphere, but was always intended to communicate God's word to people much away from their families.
Biblically, Prophecy is usually also linked to a specific function: to rebuke a people, to encourage them, or to warn them of things to come. As far as prosperity prophecies, the only ones I know are those that are about the new covenant. Also, she does not seem to use this "talent" to preach God's Word (only claiming this power is from Him). As such, I have doubts about its origin. Prophecy is different from fortune-telling. As such, these things may simply be a dream from another source, or the popular belief that there's a mind-link between mothers and children, it may also be an extraordinary talent that has no connection with God at all.
That said, I won't jump into conclusions. Let's just wait in case you miraculously become the President of the United States or something in a few years...
That said, make a good research on this new church. Use the Fruit of the Spirit test on it, and see if it is a church that follows the principles of Christ. Arm yourself properly with God's word before going in headlong to hear its deeper doctrines, as you need it to know what is true to the new covenant Christ gave us and what is not. Be well.
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Let me just say that someone in this thread I think said I shouldn't use prophecy to get an emotional high. And I definitely have done that. But now that he/she has pointed that out, I am going to try to refrain from that. I think I've more or less known that for a while, that that is wrong.
For instance, I liked this girl recently, and was praying with my mom to try and confirm that I would end up with her. God didn't say anything about her though, even though I told my mom that I wanted to pray about her. Actually, he did say something. My mom got the impression that nothing was going to come out of it, and that I should just be friends and keep my distance. I didn't keep my distance, and it screwed me over royally. I knew it was basically wrong to pray just about this girl, but I did anyway. And that's all God had to say about it.
But let me just address the point of fortune telling. Sometimes she says things about the future. But many times the things are about the present. Things like "you need to spend more time with God", "you need to stop looking at porn", "you need to have faith in God; the answers [about evolution and politics and theology and all that stuff, the things I'm questioning] will come."
For instance, I liked this girl recently, and was praying with my mom to try and confirm that I would end up with her. God didn't say anything about her though, even though I told my mom that I wanted to pray about her. Actually, he did say something. My mom got the impression that nothing was going to come out of it, and that I should just be friends and keep my distance. I didn't keep my distance, and it screwed me over royally. I knew it was basically wrong to pray just about this girl, but I did anyway. And that's all God had to say about it.
But let me just address the point of fortune telling. Sometimes she says things about the future. But many times the things are about the present. Things like "you need to spend more time with God", "you need to stop looking at porn", "you need to have faith in God; the answers [about evolution and politics and theology and all that stuff, the things I'm questioning] will come."
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The Bible contains many warnings against false prophets.
The Truth about the End Times
Rapture Ready - Rapture resource for the end times
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
(Mark 13:22 ESV)
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
(1 John 4:1 ESV)
The best way to protect yourself against false prophets and false teachers is to become familiar with what the Bible says and use that knowledge to test the prophecies you hear. Here are two sites that can help you understand the prophecies contained in the Bible. If you hear anything that contradicts the Bible it is false.(Mark 13:22 ESV)
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
(1 John 4:1 ESV)
The Truth about the End Times
Rapture Ready - Rapture resource for the end times
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