Lets read about the firmament

[Hazelelponi]

Psalms 82:6

 

[pgp_protector]

Yes, really.

You might want to brush up on reality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_(United_States_law)

 

[AV1611VET]

You might want to brush up on reality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_(United_States_law)

 

[Chinchilla]

Um ...

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I wasn't aware a man could rape his wife.

Even the fallen angels had more morals with respect to women and marriage than our academic society does today.

At least they married them.

If you think the sons of God were humans , tell me how do I get before the throne of God like they did there :

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you think the sons of God were humans , tell me how do I get before the throne of God like they did there :

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

The sons of God are angels.

 

[Chinchilla]

The sons of God are angels.

So you agree they took the wives and had sex with them in Genesis 6 ?
Same word used

 

[AV1611VET]

So you agree they took the wives and had sex with them in Genesis 6?

I'm going to answer YES to your question, although I hate the word "sex".

Married couples do not "have sex," they "make love."

And I'm sure academia, with its godless morals, disagrees with me.

 

[Chinchilla]

I'm going to answer YES to your question, although I hate the word "sex".

Married couples do not "have sex," they "make love."

And I'm sure academia, with its godless morals, disagrees with me.

I used the word Sex because I don't know love myself perhaps that's why but yes I agree they make love . But then how can woman love and angel , I always thought they were either deceived or it was done against thier will but still no idea . Always had in my mind that they simply took them without the 2nd party agreeing .

 

[AV1611VET]

I used the word Sex because I don't know love myself perhaps that's why but yes I agree they make love . But then how can woman love and angel , I always thought they were either deceived or it was done against thier will but still no idea . Always had in my mind that they simply took them without the 2nd party agreeing .

Well if you want my opinion ... and it sounds like you do ... here it is:

Angels can morph into human beings.

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

And as such, they can perform all the functions of a human being as well.

Thus they probably showed up as very handsome and enticing strangers and lured the women astray.

 

[Aman777]

Psalms 82:6

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Humans all have the potential to live forever in Paradise or to follow Satan. Those who choose Satan are none of God's. Romans 8:9

 

[Aman777]

Angels can morph into human beings.

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

And as such, they can perform all the functions of a human being as well.

Thus they probably showed up as very handsome and enticing strangers and lured the women astray.

Why would Angels have desire for Human women? Angels are God's messengers, travel between Heavens instantly and can morph into whatever image God wishes for them. The men of Lot's time wanted the Angels:

Gen 19:4 ¶
But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Old sorry Lot offered them his daughters but they wanted to "know" the Angels who finally blinded the crowd and escaped. Sounds to me like the men of Sodom were funny boys. Amen?

 

[Chinchilla]

Why would Angels have desire for Human women? Angels are God's messengers, travel between Heavens instantly and can morph into whatever image God wishes for them. The men of Lot's time wanted the Angels:

You can read book of Enoch to find out why .

You need to remember that hightests of them caused sin to happen tempting Eve , he was in charge of all of them .
Why ?
Isaiah 14:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would Angels have desire for Human women?

That's why they're "fallen angels," eh?

Angels are God's messengers, travel between Heavens instantly and can morph into whatever image God wishes for them.

Yup.

The men of Lot's time wanted the Angels:

Yes, but they didn't know they were angels.

Neither did Abraham at first.

Some ... myself included ... believe they were Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Old sorry Lot offered them his daughters but they wanted to "know" the Angels who finally blinded the crowd and escaped.

Yup.

Sounds to me like the men of Sodom were funny boys. Amen?

Yes indeed!

 

[AV1611VET]

You can read book of Enoch to find out why.

Excuse my French, but APOCRYPHA!

 

[Chinchilla]

Excuse my French, but APOCRYPHA!

James would disagree .

 

[Aman777]

If you think the sons of God were humans , tell me how do I get before the throne of God like they did there :

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

Since Jesus was the first resurrected man to enter Heaven, your view is un-scriptural. The Throne of God is in the 3rd Heaven and flesh and blood are prohibited from entering. Also, the sons of God (prehistoric man) came to present themselves to the Lord (YHWH-Jesus) and Satan came with them...on the present Earth. Try again?

 

[Chinchilla]

Since Jesus was the first resurrected man to enter Heaven, your view is un-scriptural. The Throne of God is in the 3rd Heaven and flesh and blood are prohibited from entering. Also, the sons of God (prehistoric man) came to present themselves to the Lord (YHWH-Jesus) and Satan came with them...on the present Earth. Try again?

It does not make sense only when you assume prehistoric man to live at all .

 

[Aman777]

You can read book of Enoch to find out why .

You need to remember that hightests of them caused sin to happen tempting Eve , he was in charge of all of them .
Why ?
Isaiah 14:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Sorry, but Enoch is not in the Canon or the KJV of the Bible. I believe God put the Books He wanted us to know in the KJV since it is the most widely read version of His Holy Word. I have enough trouble just understanding Genesis 1.

 

[Chinchilla]

Sorry, but Enoch is not in the Canon or the KJV of the Bible. I believe God put the Books He wanted us to know in the KJV since it is the most widely read version of His Holy Word. I have enough trouble just understanding Genesis 1.

Genesis 1 is easy , taking it literally there are no contradictions or anything like that

 

[Aman777]

That's why they're "fallen angels," eh?

No. It's because they followed Satan and left Heaven. Rev 12:9

Yes, but they didn't know they were angels.

Neither did Abraham at first.

Some ... myself included ... believe they were Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

Lord God/Jesus is the only God ever formed or that ever will be formed physically.

Col 2:9 For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.