Leftist violence is not symbolic: Today’s America parallels 1930s Germany

[DaisyDay]

No state can deprive a person of their liberty to run for office,

Of course they can and do all the time.

 

[wing2000]

The same dynamics which led to the rise of antisemitism in Nazi Germany in the early 1930s are happening again, only in America.

I agree, there is a candidate who is playing on the prejudice and fears of people to turn on their fellow citizens. This candidate is certainly capable of turning on the Jews just as he does other groups of people who are "different."

 

[Fantine]

I saw the account of the snipers in the trees on TV. I had been at a protest in our town. There were police protecting us but not helicopters. But that night (about 3 months after the Parkland shooting) there was a newscast showing the helicopters in Bentonville or Rogers, I believe. The domestic terrorists came from a right-wing extremist organization around Russellville (I think.) Harrison is the real hotbed.

You can read about the Oklahoma cell in Wikipedia under Elohim City.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Banning Trump from the ballot is not denying him the liberties that others have? Claiming Trump is guilty of insurrection without a trial is not a denial of equal protection under the law? Look, this is election interference, plain and simple--an attack on Trump's rights under the Constitution and an attack against those who want to see him on the ballot.

I haven’t checked and maybe someone here can show me otherwise but I’m pretty sure there is no actual right to run for president or be on a ballot for the presidency in any state. It is a privilege and one must meet the basic constitutional requirements. For example, being under 35 or foreign born excludes you from the presidency. Engaging in insurrection excludes you from the presidency. That isn’t an attack on anyone’s right to vote.

 

[Matt5]

We must keep Trump off the ballot because he attempted an insurrection, say Democrats. But he didn't. The storming of the Capitol was the result of a security failure, not a coup attempt. And now we know US govt operatives and Soros money are behind the plot against democracy.
Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740814539803746370

 

[Bradskii]

We must keep Trump off the ballot...

Matt, I don't think you've quite grasped the purpose of a forum.

 

[7thKeeper]

We must keep Trump off the ballot because he attempted an insurrection, say Democrats. But he didn't. The storming of the Capitol was the result of a security failure, not a coup attempt. And now we know US govt operatives and Soros money are behind the plot against democracy.

Hold on a second, I'll need to respond to this idiocy with the respect that it deserves.

Um... *Cough**cough*

 

[rturner76]

We must ensure that Democrats do not take Trump off of the ballot and that the American people are allowed to vote for the candidate of their choice.

The Trump Party (neither Republican nor Democrat but a party of one), represents the brown shirts of the Nazi Party much more than Joe Biden. That party is the one fanatically loyal to a man who attempted tp subvert the people's votes and name himself President. That is the move of a potential dictator, not Joe who respects people's right to vote their conscience and respects the public vote and the results from the Electoral College. Trump doesn't respect either of these fundamental institutions of our free elections. Instead, he asked the Electoral College to turn against the public vote and asked his Vice president not to ratify the results of the ELectoral College. If you are looking for a Nationalist dictator you have found one in former President Trump. I agree with keeping all members of the Dictatorship Party off the ballot.

 

[Matt5]

Hold on a second, I'll need to respond to this idiocy with the respect that it deserves.

Um... *Cough**cough*
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Nutty. And not a response.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

The Trump Party (neither Republican nor Democrat but a party of one), represents the brown shirts of the Nazi Party much more than Joe Biden. That party is the one fanatically loyal to a man who attempted tp subvert the people's votes and name himself President. That is the move of a potential dictator, not Joe who respects people's right to vote their conscience and respects the public vote and the results from the Electoral College. Trump doesn't respect either of these fundamental institutions of our free elections. Instead, he asked the Electoral College to turn against the public vote and asked his Vice president not to ratify the results of the ELectoral College. If you are looking for a Nationalist dictator you have found one in former President Trump. I agree with keeping all members of the Dictatorship Party off the ballot.

I doubt he could ever pull of executing naked people in gas chambers. Don't think he is that deranged, But he does want to be dictator regardless of what a vote says. We know that. he has no respect at all for the democratic process. he is a bully and can only push his way to anything. It is shocking that people still support him. I am not saying that because I support Joe. But Trump is a disease that has infected American democracy.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Nutty. And not a response.

We understand that Schellenburger and "Galaxy Brain" are not serious thinkers and not worthy of a serious response. They are nutters.

 

[rturner76]

I doubt he could ever pull of executing naked people in gas chambers. Don't think he is that deranged, But he does want to be dictator regardless of what a vote says. We know that. he has no respect at all for the democratic process. he is a bully and can only push his way to anything. It is shocking that people still support him. I am not saying that because I support Joe. But Trump is a disease that has infected American democracy.

Right, I don't see him gassing Jews, developmentally delayed people, and homosexuals. I was thinking more of how Hitler used an attack on the capital (that he likely arranged) to procure "emergency powers" that he never relinquished. I believe that if Trump ever gets a taste of that kind of power again, it would be bad news for everyday Americans but a field day for the uber-rich, As we know, Donald Trump does not pay even one penny of income tax on the billions that he makes so I'm sure he would support loopholes for his fellow billionaires to have an easier time evading taxes. The 1% often lives by a philosophy that since they generate revenue and create jobs, they shouldn't have to pay taxes. Leave that to the people they employ. So I believe they think they are justified to not pay taxes because they employ a lot of people who do pay taxes.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Right, I don't see him gassing Jews, developmentally delayed people, and homosexuals. I was thinking more of how Hitler used an attack on the capital (that he likely arranged) to procure "emergency powers" that he never relinquished. I believe that if Trump ever gets a taste of that kind of power again, it would be bad news for everyday Americans but a field day for the uber-rich, As we know, Donald Trump does not pay even one penny of income tax on the billions that he makes so I'm sure he would support loopholes for his fellow billionaires to have an easier time evading taxes. The 1% often lives by a philosophy that since they generate revenue and create jobs, they shouldn't have to pay taxes. Leave that to the people they employ. So I believe they think they are justified to not pay taxes because they employ a lot of people who do pay taxes.

Yes, but why should us common folk want him? Ig t it that we all feel used and abused. Bernie had that appeal also. And made more economic sense.

 

[RDKirk]

Mr. Biden is also an old, weak and doddering man who refuses to control or even denounce the antisemitic liberals in his party for fear of losing the support of leftist organizations such as Black Lives Matter, which is funding antisemitic groups.
History does often repeat itself, unfortunately. The same dynamics which led to the rise of antisemitism in Nazi Germany in the early 1930s are happening again, only in America.

Leftist violence is not symbolic: Today’s America parallels 1930s Germany

President Biden has let the antisemitic monster out of the bag to all of our detriment. His left-wing supporters are running wild.

www.washingtontimes.com

We must ensure that Democrats do not take Trump off of the ballot and that the American people are allowed to vote for the candidate of their choice.

Eh, I see more similarities with China's Cultural Revolution.

Of course, that wasn't a fun ride, either.

 

[rturner76]

Yes, but why should us common folk want him? Ig t it that we all feel used and abused. Bernie had that appeal also. And made more economic sense.

Bernie also fought for universal healthcare which I agree with. I think in an enlightened society, the level of healthcare one receives shouldn't be dictated by one's income. I think that there is a place for private hospitals, hospices, etc. for deluxe accommodations as we are a capitalist society but as much taxes our government collects, they could divert a couple billion from tax breaks for wealthy citizens and corporations (many of which pay no taxes at all like Donald Trump) and pay for the treatment of people's medical conditions. This IS done on a state level but some states are willing to pay for more medical care than others. Should there be a Federal standard of health care? I'm not sure if it's a state or Federal issue. In my state, there is a very robust low-income healthcare system that insures people at the same level as commercial insurance. Total access to hospital specialists mental health and addiction services. I have heard about other states not even fully covering certain treatments if you can't contribute to the cost.

Sorry about the side tangent but that was something I loved about Bernie. He wanted to ensure access to healthcare for American citizens regardless of income. Though it's not achievable it would bring our country closer to a utopia. I mean with SNAP, healthcare, and rent subsidies, just about all citizens would have access to food, clothing, and shelter. I understand that tax payers would rather not subsidize the life of poor citizens but it would make the US a bastion of freedom

 

[hislegacy]

I saw the account of the snipers in the trees on TV. I had been at a protest in our town. There were police protecting us but not helicopters. But that night (about 3 months after the Parkland shooting) there was a newscast showing the helicopters in Bentonville or Rogers, I believe. The domestic terrorists came from a right-wing extremist organization around Russellville (I think.) Harrison is the real hotbed.

You can read about the Oklahoma cell in Wikipedia under Elohim City.

No citation from a reliable news source = unsubstantiated accusation.

 

[Fantine]

Attached is a link to all the citations (articles, news sources, etc.) on Elohim City, with additional references to books about domestic terrorism in the heartland. 46 citations, 11 books in bibliography.

Elohim City, Oklahoma - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Valletta]

I agree, there is a candidate who is playing on the prejudice and fears of people to turn on their fellow citizens. This candidate is certainly capable of turning on the Jews just as he does other groups of people who are "different."

True, Joe did try to stop the busing of black kids to white schools.

 

[Valletta]

Eh, I see more similarities with China's Cultural Revolution.

Of course, that wasn't a fun ride, either.

Even the religions being targeted in the U.S. are the same as were in Germany. Jews and Catholics. The FBI had a plan to put spies in congregations.

 

[FireDragon76]

Eh, I see more similarities with China's Cultural Revolution.

Of course, that wasn't a fun ride, either.

The Cultural Revolution was actually instigated by a cadre in the Communist Party to distract from economic failures. After Mao's death, the Party repudiated it because it had such dire consequences.

BLM, on the other hand, is a grassroots movement that's mostly become a bogieman of the Right.