Leftist totalitarian mindset

[Lukaris]

Now you're making no sense whatsoever.

Is she arguing for censorship? Yeah, kinda - at least on a micro level. However, I think it's perfectly reasonable for an organization to reject a speaker on the grounds that their values do not align. If someone wants to invite a porn star to speak at a church and church leadership says no, is that censorship? Do you oppose the censorship enforced by this site regarding positions that cannot be advocated and things that cannot be said? And, again, she holds no power, so her argument is unlikely to result in any action. It certainly didn't stop Pence from speaking.

She could be dean and then put her subjective ideology as policy.

 

[Lukaris]

"Leftist"

That sounds a little too strident a label for the 50+ % of American voters who voted against Trump in the last couple elections, and probably this one too.

But maybe this is about some extreme left faction off in the margins?

Anyone is free to argue for censorship. But she was only arguing that he shouldn't be allowed to speak at Dartmouth (a private, not public university) not that he shouldn't be allowed to speak at all. Would people complain if Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at Dallas Seminary? Would that be a call for censorship?

People can complain all they want if Bernie Sanders was invited within bounds of not disrupting or violently opposing his speech. Leftists argue for censorship and often act on their intentions.

VIDEO: Watch What Keeps Happening to Conservative Speakers at Elite Colleges

The student-led disruptions during a federal district court judge’s talk at Stanford Law School earlier this month were just the latest example of U.S. universities attempting to prevent conservatives from speaking on campus.

freebeacon.com

Here is an example of chaos held in check while a speaker can still give a speech as Richard Nixon did to the Oxford Union in 1978.

 

[Lukaris]

"Leftist"

That sounds a little too strident a label for the 50+ % of American voters who voted against Trump in the last couple elections, and probably this one too.

But maybe this is about some extreme left faction off in the margins?

Leftist ideologue politicians who dupe millions by softening their ideology with their voting pitch. I would bet more voters for leftists still liberally view conservatives as “racists”, “fascists” etc.

 

[A2SG]

The issue is whether he is permitted to. He can presently but if full fledged leftists are in control, will that still be allowed?

Gee, I wonder what would happen if "full-fledged" rightists are in control?

Liberty in name only: Liberty University’s policies undermine freedom of expression

FIRE has acquired a copy of Liberty University's policies and determined they provide administrators with control over all manner of campus expression.

www.thefire.org

But they're a private institution, right? They can do what they want to, right?

-- A2SG, pot, meet kettle....

 

[Bradskii]

Leftist ideologue politicians who dupe millions by softening their ideology with their voting pitch. I would bet more voters for leftists still liberally view conservatives as “racists”, “fascists” etc.

You accuse politicians on the left of mischaracterising their positions. And then immediately proceed to mischaracterise the positions of those who vote for them.

How odd.

 

[KCfromNC]

Ah so this has not actually happened?

Sorry, I thought this was more than someone’s vivid imagination at play.

Far right talking points are doing their best with what they have. And at this point, it seems that's ignoring the realities of their candidate in favor of creative writing exercises.

 

[KCfromNC]

But maybe this is about some extreme left faction off in the margins?

It seems to be someone supporting the idea that gay people deserve the same rights as straight folks. Perhaps to some points of view that's extreme left?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

She could be dean and then put her subjective ideology as policy.

She could be, but she isn't. And deans don't generally get to act unilaterally on stuff like approving/vetoing speakers.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Folks like you and @RocksInMyHead need to figure out if you agree with Moreton that, "Universities are places for debating ideas..."

Universities are absolutely places for debating ideas - including which ideas are worthy of debate in the first place.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Employee that could also become dean but that would be fine for some I imagine.

I hope your shoes have good grip for that slippery slope you're standing on.

 

[Lukaris]

I hope your shoes have good grip for that slippery slope you're standing on.

Universities are absolutely places for debating ideas - including which ideas are worthy of debate in the first place.

Employee (I assume that's what a “history professor” is) expresses opinion. News at 11.

Private school invites speaker and employee says invited speaker should be censored.

 

[Lukaris]

Private institution invites speaker and employee advocates censorship.

 

[Lukaris]

Gee, I wonder what would happen if "full-fledged" rightists are in control?

Liberty in name only: Liberty University’s policies undermine freedom of expression

FIRE has acquired a copy of Liberty University's policies and determined they provide administrators with control over all manner of campus expression.

www.thefire.org

But they're a private institution, right? They can do what they want to, right?

-- A2SG, pot, meet kettle....

So the private institution invited a speaker and an employee advocates censorship of invited speaker.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Private school invites speaker and employee says invited speaker should be censored.

So instead, we censor the employee?

 

[Lukaris]

Leftist ideologue politicians who dupe millions by softening their ideology with their voting pitch. I would bet more voters for leftists still liberally view conservatives as “racists”, “fascists” etc.

Pollster says Democrats’ ‘demonization’ of Trump was ‘over the top’

Mark Penn, who served as an adviser to the Clintons from 1995 to 2008 and now runs the Harris Poll, agreed that the “politics of demonization” from Democrats toward President-elect…

thehill.com

 

[Lukaris]

So instead, we censor the employee?

Where do you get that? Who censored her?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Where do you get that? Who censored her?

You seem to be making an argument that she should not be allowed to say such a thing, or that she should face consequences for it.

 

[Lukaris]

You seem to be making an argument that she should not be allowed to say such a thing, or that she should face consequences for it.

I think she is a hypocrite and that most liberals and leftists are also. What does my opinion have to with censorship or firing an individual from their job?

 

[essentialsaltes]

employee advocates censorship.

It's a free country.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I think she is a hypocrite and that most liberals and leftists are also.

What makes her a hypocrite? Which of her own beliefs has she argued against?

What does my opinion have to with censorship

About as much as her opinion does.