LCMS Name Change?

[DaRev]

With Jesus First and Daystar behind him he is still in contention.

They have no sway with me.

 

[RadMan]

They have no sway with me.

But they have the sway with a lot of other congregational members and clergy and are circulating their "A Daystar Reader" promoting women clergy, open communion, unionism and syncretism, evolution and homosexuality etc. Find it, read it DaRev and then tell me Otten has been wrong all these years. That is what he has been fighting against and people have denied something like this even exists. People have called it conspiracies, wishfull flights of fantasy, figments of Ottens overactive imagination. Daystar and Jesus First have been Kieshnick's biggest supporters and promoters ever since he was DP in Texas yet everyone has ignored them like they don't exist. Well they have finally published their manifesto and can't be ignored anymore. Nobody can say they haven't been a big influence in Kieshnick's platform. David Benke is one of the biggest contributors.



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[DaRev]

But they have the sway with a lot of other congregational members and clergy and are circulating their "A Daystar Reader" promoting women clergy, open communion, unionism and syncretism, evolution and homosexuality etc. Find it, read it DaRev and then tell me Otten has been wrong all these years. That is what he has been fighting against and people have denied something like this even exists. People have called it conspiracies, wishfull flights of fantasy, figments of Ottens overactive imagination. Daystar and Jesus First have been Kieshnick's biggest supporters and promoters ever since he was DP in Texas yet everyone has ignored them like they don't exist. Well they have finally published their manifesto and can't be ignored anymore. Nobody can say they haven't been a big influence in Kieshnick's platform. David Benke is one of the biggest contributors.

They can promote all they want. It doesn't mean its going to happen.