Lazarus

[BFWard]

Just a stupid question. In either the beginning of Acts, or the end of John, the Pharasies plotted to kill Lazarus because he was living proof of the power of Christ.

Can anyone tell me if they ever went through with this plot? I cannot find anything concluding that plot. Thank you.

 

[Philip]

It is in St John's Gospel.

Whether or not they tried, I do not know. If they did, then they did not succeed. Tradition maintains that Lazarus lived for quite some time, witnessing for Christ. He became a leader of the Church of Cyprus. The other three Gospels do not record the story of Lazarus because he was still alive and testifying when they were writen.

 

[inhimitrust]

It you do a word search on Lazarus (his name means "whom God helps"), you will see the similarities of Lazarus both in the parable of the rich man and lazarus, and the one that died and Christ brought him back to life.
In Luke 16, Lazarus represents the "gentiles" (or those of the righteousness of Abraham thru Christ) in the parable while the rich man represented the "apostate" jews(being in hades and agony with a great gulf, implying the torment of the jews not accepting Christ, Who represented the righteousness of faith that is of Abraham), of whom Christ said "the kingdom shall be taken away from you and given to ones that would bear "good fruit"(matt 21:43), and of course they were always wanting to "do away" with Christ and they did, but the "hellfire" of 70ad took them out(became his "footstool' so to speak).
Anyway, the similarities are pretty striking in both of them as are the other similarities in the whole bible. This is a good online lexicon if you need one:
http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

 

[BFWard]

Thank you very much.

 

[prodromos]

Lazarus left Bethany and went to the city of Kition in Cyprus where he was made bishop of Cyprus and lived for about 30 years. After his death, so many people used to come to the city to venerate the relics of "Twice dead Lazarus" where they were kept in a Larnax (sarcophagus), that the city slowly became known as Larnaca as it is still called today.

Saint Lazarus Church, Larnaca, Cyprus
built over the tomb of Lazarus.​

 

[hraedisc]

Amazing - Lazarus didn't speak about his supposed conscious existence in an immortal soul during those 4 days he was said to be dead ("sleeping") John 11:11-13. Neither did Eutychus. Eutychus was dead and brought back to life by the Apostle Paul. Acts 20:8-10

 

[inhimitrust]

Lazarus left Bethany and went to the city of Kition in Cyprus where he was made bishop of Cyprus and lived for about 30 years. After his death, so many people used to come to the city to venerate the relics of "Twice dead Lazarus" where they were kept in a Larnax (sarcophagus), that the city slowly became known as Larnaca as it is still called today.

Saint Lazarus Church, Larnaca, Cyprus
built over the tomb of Lazarus.
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Are you sure this was the same Lazarus? Did he write on his experience of being raised by Jesus? I would be skeptical of this one being the same one I think.

 

[prodromos]

Absolutely, definitely the same Lazarus. Now although the name Lazarus is very popular among men in Cyprus, I was unaware of any other Saint Lazarus. Which other Lazarus did you suspect was being confused here?

John.

 

[inhimitrust]

Absolutely, definitely the same Lazarus. Now although the name Lazarus is very popular among men in Cyprus, I was unaware of any other Saint Lazarus. Which other Lazarus did you suspect was being confused here?

John.

Ok. Don't matter.

 

[SumTinWong]

Here is something scary for you: http://www.doyletics.com/arj/tdwjlrvw.htm

There is a guy who wrote this book that says that Lazarus was the man whom Jesus loved. I don't believe it, but it is out there...

 

[Philip]

Yes, it is scary. What is truly frightening is that the people who put forward this junk seem to miss the difference between agope, philo, and eros.

 

[SumTinWong]

Yes, it is scary. What is truly frightening is that the people who put forward this junk seem to miss the difference between agope, philo, and eros.

I don't think even many Christians know the difference either.

Side note: agope. Is that how you spell it, or agape? I have been taught agape, but if I have been taught wrong...

 

[Philip]

'agape' is correct. Poor typing on my part.

 

[SumTinWong]

'agape' is correct. Poor typing on my part.

Thanks Philip!

 

[Symes]

Amazing - Lazarus didn't speak about his supposed conscious existence in an immortal soul during those 4 days he was said to be dead ("sleeping") John 11:11-13. Neither did Eutychus. Eutychus was dead and brought back to life by the Apostle Paul. Acts 20:8-10

You have made a good point.

Also when Jesus died, He did not say anything about a conscious state of existence.

Just imagine if we apply the same rule to the death of Jesus as to what many do today.

Remember Jesus said to Mary, "don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to my Father"

So where did Jesus go if he was not in the tomb.

If He was in the tomb (dead/asleep) then why do people say today that the dead are in heaven?

Jesus did not go to heaven because He said so.