Lazarus, Jesus, and Death

[metherion]

I'd been thinking in my rather meager free time, and I had an idea.

One of the main arguments about evolution is that in a pre-Fall world there would be no animal death, right? Death of both the body and the spirit is our enemy. And one of the main tenets of Christianity is that Christ's death and descent into Hell is what defeated death.

But then, one thing remains. You see, Lazarus was dead. And Jesus ressurected Lazarus before He died to defeat death. But Lazarus was a good Jew, and his spirit would not have gone to Hell. So, Jesus 'defeated' death of the body before Hs sacrifice. Which would mean the death Jesus defeated with His death wasn't death of the body (for He'd already shown power over that typ of death.) Right?

(Sorry if the idea is rather half-baked, but I haven't really had much time to think about it. The next three weeks are packed. PACKED. Read: 6 major reports, at least one exam, the normal amount of homeworks, and 8 hours in lab. Posting this idea is pretty much all that is keeping me sane.)

Metherion

 

[SweetPatty]

I'd been thinking in my rather meager free time, and I had an idea.

One of the main arguments about evolution is that in a pre-Fall world there would be no animal death, right? Death of both the body and the spirit is our enemy. And one of the main tenets of Christianity is that Christ's death and descent into Hell is what defeated death.

But then, one thing remains. You see, Lazarus was dead. And Jesus ressurected Lazarus before He died to defeat death. But Lazarus was a good Jew, and his spirit would not have gone to Hell. So, Jesus 'defeated' death of the body before Hs sacrifice. Which would mean the death Jesus defeated with His death wasn't death of the body (for He'd already shown power over that typ of death.) Right?

(Sorry if the idea is rather half-baked, but I haven't really had much time to think about it. The next three weeks are packed. PACKED. Read: 6 major reports, at least one exam, the normal amount of homeworks, and 8 hours in lab. Posting this idea is pretty much all that is keeping me sane.)

Metherion

see, this is where I don't see how so many people fully agree with this part, theres tons of really god resources that explain ever facet of this.

scriptureexplained.com

JesuLazerusUnited.com

and scripterfied.com

 

[busterdog]

see, this is where I don't see how so many people fully agree with this part, theres tons of really god resources that explain ever facet of this.

do not go to link.

On another thread is was pornographic.

 

[SweetPatty]

see, this is where I don't see how so many people fully agree with this part, theres tons of really god resources that explain ever facet of this.

do not go to link.

On another thread is was pornographic.

you are full of lies and hate

also a f a gg ot

 

[theFijian]

But then, one thing remains. You see, Lazarus was dead. And Jesus ressurected Lazarus before He died to defeat death. But Lazarus was a good Jew, and his spirit would not have gone to Hell. So, Jesus 'defeated' death of the body before Hs sacrifice. Which would mean the death Jesus defeated with His death wasn't death of the body (for He'd already shown power over that typ of death.) Right?

I see what you're saying, but wouldn't Lazarus have stilled died a second time (eg. old age) whereas Christ did not?

 

[armothe]

Would Christ have died of old age?

-A

 

[gluadys]

Would Christ have died of old age?

-A

And if he had died of old age instead of being crucified at 33, would his death still be the redemption of humankind?


I've also heard it stated the other way around. If all Christ had to do to redeem us was die, why not let him die in infancy? Why was his ministry necessary? Why was his death by execution necessary?

 

[theFijian]

Would Christ have died of old age?

-A

He was human wasn't he?