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It's creation style time, what we tend to observe is 4th day time.
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It's creation style time, what we tend to observe is 4th day time.I disagree with changing the definitions of words, like making near mean far off, but in “God’s time”.
God can tell us when things are literally far off and has done so. Daniel 8:26 is a great example. So it make no sense to argue “God’s time relativity”.
Instead, What you could argue is the “prophetic perfect idiom”, which doesn’t change the definition of the words, and was a common literary tool used in ancient Hebrew.
God uses the timing of 30 days in a month. See 1,260 days = 3 1/2 yrs of 30 days.Having established the exact timing of 2000 years between each of the pivotal points of human history, we are now aware of the soon to come 6000th year since Adam.
This approaching critical point is plainly obvious from many aspects of our current situation.
But will Jesus Return at year 6000? I now consider that 2000 years since Jesus was acclaimed King, will not see His Return, for this reason:
What I think will constitute that hugely important mark will be Satan declaring himself to be God, after he has conquered God’s holy people: Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:5-8, which happens 3 ½ years before Jesus Returns.
So we have Jesus being declared as King: John 12:12-15.then 2000 years later; Satan usurps Jesus: 2 Thessalonians 2:4, and rules the world until Jesus Returns; 1260 days later and defeats Satan and his armies: Revelation 19:17-21
This 1260 day period will be a hiatus, a pause in God’s timing and the last part of the silence in heaven, recommencing when Jesus Returns as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to reign on earth for the next thousand years.
As I maintain that all the Prophesied end times events will take at least 10 years, then this scenario fits with where we are at today: 1993 years since 30 AD.
The 30 day month and the 360 day year were how it was in ancient times, but during the Exodus, circa 1493 BC, the earth slowed its orbit to what we have now: months of varying days and a 365.24 day year.God uses the timing of 30 days in a month. See 1,260 days = 3 1/2 yrs of 30 days.
The 30 days is a prophetic calculation that is constant.The 30 day month and the 360 day year were how it was in ancient times, but during the Exodus, circa 1493 BC, the earth slowed its orbit to what we have now: months of varying days and a 365.24 day year.
What is prophesied to happen when the Lord strikes the earth with His fiery wrath, Revelation 6:12-17, 2 Peter 3:7, +, is the earth will speed up its orbit, Isaiah 13:13, and we will have again a 360 day year with 12: 30 day months.
Do you think we should throw out the Prophesies because they don't fit the current times?
Apostles did not build any heat resistant shelters. And they clearly believed they are the last generation:Basically, you are telling God that you don't care about the many Prophesies He has given to us about what He plans for our future.
Kowing what is coming will be a big help to get thru it all.
The main practical step to take, is to have a place to shelter in for the 24 hours of extreme heat, storms and earthquakes of the Day of the Lords fiery wrath. Isaiah 26:20-21, Revelation 6:12-17
Au Contraire, Keras. The Bible specifically says that if someone claims something will happen, and then it fails to happen like they said, then it is a message the Lord has not spoken and there is no need to be afraid. So, Because of your past failed predictions, I have no need to be worried about how you personally interpret scripture and predict the future.Now: those letters and the Gospels are the most important part of our Bible.
From your scathing and accusing responses to anyone who promotes the Prophetic Word, it looks like you are worried that you might actually have to face scary and dramatic events.
No idea what "4th day time" is. Do you mean the "millennial day theory"?It's creation style time, what we tend to observe is 4th day time.
On day 1 of creation, a different light was used to keep time.No idea what "4th day time" is. Do you mean the "millennial day theory"?
In any case, this does not address the FACT that God can tell us when things are literally far off, like Daniel 8:26. Why wasn't John just told the same thing in revelation 1:1-3, if the events weren't literally near? Why is John told the literal opposite of Daniel?
Daniel 8:26 The vision of the evenings and the mornings that has been spoken is true. Now you must seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future.”
revelation 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.
Unfortunately, the moon does not take exactly 30 days:The 30 days is a prophetic calculation that is constant.
We measure our calendar by the sun, Israel uses the moon. So we use God`s timing and place it on Israel`s calendar to get the right timing.
The Bible Prophesies tell us we must be pro-active and take action to save ourselves. It is not 'carnal' to take heed of warnings.Your caring about prophecies seems to be very carnal - saving yourself physically. Christians have been laying their lives down daily, the physical survival was never the point of Christianity. The preparation was clearly meant to be spiritual - staying clean from the world and doing good deeds.
That`s why God use the exact measurement of 30 days - 1,260 days, 1,290 days & 1,335 days. That exact measurement can then be placed upon any calendar to get the time according to the lunar or solar calendar.Unfortunately, the moon does not take exactly 30 days:
..... it takes our Moon about 29.5 days to complete one cycle of phases (from new Moon to new Moon). [ref- google]
The Jewish Calander is a confused mish-mash of added days and their timeline is about 230 years wrong.
The Bible Prophesies tell us we must be pro-active and take action to save ourselves. It is not 'carnal' to take heed of warnings.
Jeremiah 5:1-2 Go up and down the streets of Jerusalem, look and take note, search for anyone who acts justly or one who seeks the truth – that I might forgive that city. People may swear by the Lord, but in fact they perjure themselves.
Is it possible to find anyone there today, acting in real truth and justice?
Jeremiah 5:3 Go; You look for righteousness. You have punished Your people, but they took no heed and refused to learn. They hardened their hearts and would not repent of their sins.
Israel and Judah, punished by their exiles, but they still don’t truly repent.
Jeremiah 5:4-5 The Lord thought; these are only the common people, those that don’t know the Laws of their God. I will go to their leaders and teachers, they should know the right ways. But, they too, have gone away from the right path and no longer keep the Laws or trust the Lord.
Jeremiah 5:6-9 So they will be struck down by disaster, for their rebellious deeds and apostasies are beyond counting. Why should I forgive them for this? Your children have forsaken Me, with idols and adulteries. Shall I fail to punish them for this? I will exact vengeance on these people.
Jeremiah 5:10-13 Prune the vine, lop off the branches, for they are not the Lord’s. Faithless are Israel and Judah, both faithless to Me, they both deny their God, saying: He does not see or care – no harm will come to us, we won’t see war or want. The prophets just spoke empty words, meaningless wind. Therefore, because they talk this way, I shall make My words a fire in your mouth and it will burn up these people like brushwood.
Apostate, atheistic Judah, the Jewish people, and Israel, the Christian peoples, are still similar to their ancestors. The clear prophetic warnings were ignored then and are ignored now. The ‘burning’ did not happen then, it is still future. Ezekiel 20:45-48, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7
Again; you just make the Prophesies inconsequential and of no value to us today. I view that as a sin, a rejection of God's Word.The apostles did not seek to save themselves physically, they did seek to save others spiritually, though.
When they preached to others that the end is coming, they did not tell them to build a heat shelter, they told them to repent.
Telling the people that the end is coming took them like two sentences, not hundreds of hours of predictions and guesses.
Sure, building a physical heat shelter to survive a physical fire that will burn the whole Earth and Heavens (2 Pet 3:7) is certainly what Peter meant.Again; you just make the Prophesies inconsequential and of no value to us today. I view that as a sin, a rejection of God's Word.
You are wrong to say the Apostles didn't warn us about what must happen, 2 Peter 3:7 and Hebrews 10:27, + tell us that the Lord will use fire and the logical and sensible thing is to take precautions for yourself and your family.
Hi claninja,Au Contraire, Keras. The Bible specifically says that if someone claims something will happen, and then it fails to happen like they said, then it is a message the Lord has not spoken and there is no need to be afraid. So, Because of your past failed predictions, I have no need to be worried about how you personally interpret scripture and predict the future.
Deuteronomy 18:21-22 You may ask in your heart, “How can we recognize a message that the LORD has not spoken?” 22When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
His language is different, though, using words like "sin, rejection of God's Word" and similar. It does not seem being tolerant to other views.What keras is doing is expressing his view(s) and beliefs on issues dealing with bible prophecy and concepts. Nothing more, nothing less.
The only thing that is Prophesied to happen seven years before Jesus Returns, is a peace treaty. As Daniel 9:27 says.
Thanks Dougg. I make no claim to be a prophet. My task is to promote and proclaim what they said. Doing what my name means.What keras is doing is expressing his view(s) and beliefs on issues dealing with bible prophecy and concepts. Nothing more, nothing less.
If I am wrong, then the Bible Prophets have misled us.As far as being right or wrong, keras is going to have to admit he is wrong concerning his overall scenario when Gog/Magog takes place and it involves the present state of Israel over there - and not his solar flare event/new replacement nation of Beulah scenario.
I view it as opposing God's Word when people say things like: We will be raptured to heaven, when scripture never says that, but clearly says: We must endure until the end.His language is different, though, using words like "sin, rejection of God's Word" and similar. It does not seem being tolerant to other views.
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