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Kim Jong Un wants to denuclearize during Trump's first term

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Mountainmanbob

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Trump needs to share 'warm, positive' letter from Kim Jong Un with the American people.
Probably not.
Might make Putin jealous?

Got to get and keep those bromances where you can.

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I would love for this to be true, but it seems he's expanding their nuclear program not dismantling it.

I don't understand why some think that way? Indicators seem to be positive in the other direction. Let us hope and pray for the best.

We need to stop scaring the little children.

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I would love for this to be true, but it seems he's expanding their nuclear program not dismantling it.
Of course, that information being purported by CNN and others is as verifiable as the satellite imagery showing mobile chemical production trailers Colin Powell used in front of the UN to justify invading Iraq, which we now know was bogus.

Don't you think it significant that this years military parade in NK featured no missiles for the first time? That is easily observed and verifiable...
 
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Is that the same reliable satellite analysis that Colin Powell used to invade Iraq?
SWEET! I was wondering what the new talking point was going to be to try and distract from the complete failure of the North Korea "deal" President Trump made! :clap:
tulc(is always interested in that sort of thing) :oldthumbsup:
 
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SWEET! I was wondering what the new talking point was going to be to try and distract from the complete failure of the North Korea "deal" President Trump made! :clap:
tulc(is always interested in that sort of thing) :oldthumbsup:
Can you show any facts that the NK deal is a failure or that you have any inside info on what's going on?... of course you can't but the hyperbole sells well to the obstructionists.
 
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Can you show any facts that the NK deal is a failure or that you have any inside info on what's going on?... of course you can't but the hyperbole sells well to the obstructionists.

They got no proof and they hate that the deal is going good. Once again Trump doing what Obama could not.
M-Bob
 
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Can you show any facts that the NK deal is a failure or that you have any inside info on what's going on?
You mean like this:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/north-...-facility-despite-summit-diplomacy-1530100351
SEOUL—North Korea is upgrading its nuclear research center at a rapid pace, new satellite imagery analysis suggests, despite Pyongyang’s commitment to denuclearization at a summit with the U.S. this month.
or this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...-it-expanding-nuclear-research-center-n887056
North Korea continues to make improvements to a major nuclear facility, raising questions about President Donald Trump's claim that Kim Jong Un has agreed to disarm, independent experts tell NBC News.

New satellite images made public by 38north, a web site devoted to analyzing North Korea, show that "improvements to the infrastructure at North Korea's Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center are continuing at a rapid pace," three 38north analysts concluded in a paper.

... of course you can't but the hyperbole sells well to the obstructionists
oh dear...looks like I did have some...:sorry:
tulc(finds facts do seem to get so in the way of President Trumps claims) :wave:
 
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They got no proof and they hate that the deal is going good. Once again Trump doing what Obama could not.
M-Bob
True, President Obama made deals that were enforceable and verifiable and not merely a piece of paper and a photo op for two people trying to "look world leaderlike" and failing in the attempt. :wave:
tulc(wonders how it feels finding out the "great negotiator" was so obviously played?) :scratch:
 
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It's bad form to cite sources that contradict the point you are trying to make.

"The report states that "continued work at the Yongbyon facility should not be seen as having any relationship to North Korea's pledge to denuclearize,"
and yet in the sentence just past the one you posted:
However, other experts argue that ongoing work on the site of a reactor that is producing fuel for nuclear weapons shows that North Korea has no intention of disarming.
:wave:
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :)
 
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If he wanted to de-nuclearize he would have done it already. He wants a lot in return for doing it.

He already got Trump to cancel joint US/South Korea military exercises, which are a constant impediment to his plans to control the entire peninsula. Since he got what he wanted from Trump for nothing more than a vague expression of support for a denuclearized Korea, he has no reason to do anything more.

Trump was easily conned into making a huge concession for nothing whatever. Kim, by suggesting he might later give Trump something of value, is merely playing him for further concessions.
 
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