What if I was Mexican?No. But if you're wearing them because you're going to a party and you think that's a simple way to define 'Mexican' together with a black Pancho Villa stuck-on moustache and a funny accent then you just look an idiot. So I'd advise against it.
Of course. But just because WE just ignored it doesn't mean it wasn't really important to someone else.
A knight outfit? Are you talking knights of the round table armour? That's just...armour. Knights just get a medal. They don't dress up. Although they probably wear a suit when the king taps them on the shoulder And you may very well have a problem with some people if you wear a kilt as the pattern signifies your clan. So you better be wearing a generic kilt if you're in Scotland.I bet you can't find any complaints about English knight outfits, Or Scottish kilt etc outfits. Or German lederhosen etc outfits. Or probably any European cultural outfit worn by someone who's not of that culture.
No. Obviously. And I'm not going to get offended on behalf of someone else. It's up to Native Americans to tell you whether they think it's inappropriate or not. But just seeing the picture of that kid and you knew immediately what the discussion was going to be about. And it's a reasonable discussion to have.That's because you're not an American Indian.
No I didn't read that person's tweet, I read the original official statement. Does not endorse is a long ways from condemns.
I was astonished that the little fella was called out as being racist. But I was also astonished to find out that his grandfather was a tribal elder. What on earth was his dad thinking?
What? Why on earth would you go to a party dressed as a cartoon Mexican if you are actually Mexican?
Wait, you're calling traditional Mexican apparel cartoonish? Tisk, tisk, tisk. BTW I've been to Olvera Street many times and I'm sure it's a great place to buy a sombrero and poncho, from Mexicans. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find a vendor selling fake mustaches too.What? Why on earth would you go to a party dressed as a cartoon Mexican if you are actually Mexican?
Bueno...parece que los duenos de tiendas no tienen ningun problema con eso.Wait, you're calling traditional Mexican apparel cartoonish? Tisk, tisk, tisk. BTW I've been to Olvera Street many times and I'm sure it's a great place to buy a sombrero and poncho, from Mexicans. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find a vendor selling fake mustaches too.
You'd think having been born and raised in Los Angeles county I'd know some Spanish, but nope. Then again I remember Spanish kids not knowing it either and actually making fun of how it sounds.Bueno...parece que los duenos de tiendas no tienen ningun problema con eso.
I did it in school. And still brush up on it now and then. I know enough to get into trouble. But probably not enough to get out of it...You'd think having been born and raised in Los Angeles county I'd know some Spanish, but nope. Then again I remember Spanish kids not knowing it either and actually making fun of how it sounds.
The real ones, yeah. If someone dresses like an English King or Knight, do the cultural appropriation folks complain about that?
I think the fact that the kid's grandfather is a tribal elder, shows that they aren't bothered by someone wearing an Indian headdress. And I don't think the kid was trying to represent his tribe. Anymore than if I wore a green bowler hat and a shamrock necklace on St. Patrick's day, I'd be trying to represent my Kelly Irish heritage. I'd just be wearing that stuff as a novelty for fun.
I've heard them talk about it and I've asked them questions in the past.You keep informing opinions by things you think are logical when there is no factual basis for all of these things occurring but you've still conjured this up and now you logically deduce native Americans are ok with it.
Not logic, understanding.It's all about how YOU apply logic.
Ad hominem tisk tisk.That, or you could just listen to what the elders are saying. Cause maybe it isn't about you and your logic. You're just as bad as the white woke people you complain about; it's all about you.
Catalan and Mexican Spanish are about as far removed from each other as American and Australian English.Yeah. Brought up in the UK. Spent a lot of time in Spain when I lived there and again when we retired.
I've got a book somewhere on swearing in Spanish. There are some words and phrases that are quite inoccuous in one Spanish speaking country but crazy bad in another.Catalan and Mexican Spanish are about as far removed from each other as American and Australian English.
You keep informing opinions by things you think are logical when there is no factual basis for all of these things occurring but you've still conjured this up and now you logically deduce native Americans are ok with it.
It's all about how YOU apply logic.
That, or you could just listen to what the elders are saying.
Cause maybe it isn't about you and your logic. You're just as bad as the white woke people you complain about; it's all about you.
If you've read my posts, you'd see that I am making space for the boy to be ignorant. Also, I said I was disappointed that dad didn't know and he bears more responsibility.
That said, you are the first person in my entire life who has told me that the way holding chopsticks is important. I'm not interested in upsetting anyone so let me know how I should hold them and I'll hold them that way. In the meantime, I'm wondering if you are equating the importance of chopsticks with a headdress?
Of course. And it's informed by first person. So what's your point?
1) It may speak to the quality of American education if folks have no idea about the importance of Native American headdresses. And given it is a part of the geographic and social history, I have a hard time believing that it was taught.
2) Tell you what. I'd be kind of upset if someone urinated on a Bible. I would expect most Christians would be upset by that. And we'd be upset about that because we believe the word of God to be sacred and that is disrespectful.
Some things carry actual meaning and significance to people. I understand the idea that there are DEFINITELY items that cultures should and could share and folks should feel welcome to; there are other things in Native American culture that they do share...and happily share. But I don't think there is anything AT ALL wrong with cultures holding sacred items and people outside of that culture respecting that.
Help me understand why you think that's hard or unfair
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