Keith Olberman, Have You No Shame, Sir?!!

[EdwinWillers]

Yes, the calls for decency do ring hollow.

Maddow made a great point (and it was one of her better moments imho) - FoxNews is a political organization and not a news organization. FoxNews is shamelessly fundraising for Republican candidates.

IMHO, MSNBC has more integrity as an organization than does Fox. And I wouldn't be surprized to find that Keith was not sorry that he was suspended but will use that in the future to show why FoxNews is lacking journalistic honesty.

"Integrity?" - with a nation now permanently divided, and Christians willingly on either side of an ever-expanding rift over "social(ist)" issues, I'm not convinced proclamations of humility these days have any more integrity than the venom and ridicule which succeeds them.

 

[WiredSpirit]

Posted by Wiredspirit:

"Since giving personalities like Michael Savage and Alan Keyes a platform MSNBC has quadrupled its audience as a progressive network"

Follow the link to see the ratings for Nov. 4th. O'Rielly led Olberman by almost 4 to 1. Indeed, FOX led in all catagories.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/05/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-november-4-2010/71003

According to another rating service:

"Fox News Channel continued its cable news dominance in July not only beating CNN and MSNBC combined, but showing the most growth in the younger demo."

MSNBC ranked 26th in prime time viewship.

Source: July Ratings: Fox News Beats MSNBC & CNN Combined in Total Day and Prime - TVNewser

For the month of October:

"FNC beat CNN and MSNBC combined in the demo in both primetime and total day. FNC is now #4 in all of cable."

Source: Ratings - TVNewser

What's your point? Are you saying MSNBC didn't quadruple its ratings since the days of Keyes and Savage? There was a time when Headline News was beating them. Now they've moved well ahead of CNN (#33) and what happened to Fox anyways? They were second right behind USA.

 

[lordbt]

Going from one viewer to four is quadrupling your viewers. So yes, MSNBC should be congratulated on its ratings success. Not only that, they now have enough viewers to put together a beach volleyball game. Wow. Good job guys. Keep up the programming excellence and they could easily double that number to eight by next summer.

 

[FreeinChrist]

"Integrity?" - with a nation now permanently divided, and Christians willingly on either side of an ever-expanding rift over "social(ist)" issues, I'm not convinced proclamations of humility these days have any more integrity than the venom and ridicule which succeeds them.

It has to do with being what you say you are. Fox News claims to be news station - yet endorses and raises money for Republican candidates. They are a far cry from Walter Cronkite.

And the nation was divided before Keith became a host. It has had a serious divide since Newt arrived on the political scene in the Clinton years. The divide is made worse by some of the hysteria created by folks like Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

I'm glad he's gone, and I applaud MSNBC for having the integrity to fire him.

 

[brindisi]

It has to do with being what you say you are. Fox News claims to be news station...They are a far cry from Walter Cronkite.

And the nation was divided before Keith became a host. It has had a serious divide since Newt arrived on the political scene in the Clinton years. The divide is made worse by some of the hysteria created by folks like Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.

Thank God they're a far cry from Walter Cronkite!

I know that many liberals pine for the good old days when conservatives where content to be a compliant minority, compromising every principle during the day and grateful for being invited to cocktail parties at night. Fondly remembering the days when the CBS and NBC and ABC and the New York Times and the Washington Post, gatekeepers of culture and news, spoonfed us whatever pablum they wanted us to hear and killed any story that threatened the liberal status quo.

Those days are long gone and we're better off for it. It's a rough and tumble world. Get used to it.

 

[FreeinChrist]

He is suspended - not fired. Maddow described it as temporary.

At least MSNBC acted and is making a stand about the issue.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Thank God they're a far cry from Walter Cronkite.

I know that many liberals pine for the good old days when conservatives where content to be a compliant minority, compromising every principle during the day and grateful for being invited to cocktail parties at night. Fon dly remembering the days when the CBS and NBC and ABC and the New York Times and the Washington Post, gatekeepers of culture and news, spoonfed us whatever pablum they felt important and killed any story that threatened the liberal status quo.

Those days are long gone and we're better off for it. It's a rough and tumble world. Get used to it.

And those days were... when?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Thank God they're a far cry from Walter Cronkite!

I know that many liberals pine for the good old days when conservatives where content to be a compliant minority, compromising every principle during the day and grateful for being invited to cocktail parties at night. Fondly remembering the days when the CBS and NBC and ABC and the New York Times and the Washington Post, gatekeepers of culture and news, spoonfed us whatever pablum they wanted us to hear and killed any story that threatened the liberal status quo.

Those days are long gone and we're better off for it. It's a rough and tumble world. Get used to it.

Cronkite and Jennings were both so far above the standards of FoxNews it isn't funny.

 

[brindisi]

And those days were... when?

1950s, 60s, 70s, and much of the 80s. I lived through much of that time and don't consider it the good old days at all.

 

[brindisi]

Cronkite and Jennings were both so far above the standards of FoxNews it isn't funny.

Nice of you to think so. Thank God most of America disagrees.

 

[lordbt]

Cronkite and Jennings were both so far above the standards of FoxNews it isn't funny.

Cronkite and Jennings were liberals who pretended to give objective news. Not so different from what you accuse Fox of doing now is it.

 

[Jase]

I watched Maddow's segment. In it she makes the distinction that CNBC host are not part of MSNBC and therefore not bound by the rule, and therefore exempt. If FOX News has no such rule, then neither are FOX News host. Which means her argument is just a lot of hot air under the umbrella of "I'm better than you are."

Her point is that the sole purpose of Fox news is a political platform to support and fund Republicans, where as MSNBC has a little more class, and as a network, does not support political candidates. Maddow is liberally biased, which she fully admitted in last night's segment, but she is extremely smart, and is one of the few hosts who actually presents factually backed information - unlike Fox.

 

[Jase]

Going from one viewer to four is quadrupling your viewers. So yes, MSNBC should be congratulated on its ratings success. Not only that, they now have enough viewers to put together a beach volleyball game. Wow. Good job guys. Keep up the programming excellence and they could easily double that number to eight by next summer.

Do you ever plan on coming clean that you're not actually an atheist, but a right wing Christian?

 

[brindisi]

...but she is extremely smart, and is one of the few hosts who actually presents factually backed information - unlike Fox.

But of course she's smart, she's a liberal. Doesn't that go without saying? Got any more funny liberal stereotypes?

Here's a suggestion for you, if you don't like Fox News don't watch and don't listen. You and the rest of MSNBC's viewers can fit in your living room and watch Rachel Maddow instead. The rest of the world has moved on. But hey, we still need to keep a few libs around, in sort of like a museum.

 

[Jase]

But of course she's smart, she's a liberal. Doesn't that go without saying? Got any more funny liberal stereotypes?

Here's a suggestion for you, if you don't like Fox News don't watch and don't listen. You and the rest of MSNBC's viewers can fit in your living room and watch Rachel Maddow instead. The rest of the world has moved on. But hey, we still need to keep a few libs around, in sort of like a museum.

While your disdain for people who don't think like you is quite evident, perhaps you could be a little more charitable and stop laughing at everyone for giggles?

 

[chaz345]

Kind of seems like a silly policy, but at least he was suspended for violating a specific stated policy, as opposed to the station just not liking his views.

I don't watch him much though, I only watch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. She's witty, intelligent, and tells it like it is. Only reporter i like more is Anderson.

Well your biggest mistake is considering any of the three reporters. They are nothing of the sort.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Cronkite and Jennings were liberals who pretended to give objective news. Not so different from what you accuse Fox of doing now is it.

QFT. Touche.

The real issue people have with Fox is that they provide a venue for people who clearly and effectively articulate opinions they don't want to hear because they disagree with them.

So rather than acknowledge, let alone permit people with differing opinions to theirs, they are actively seeking to SHUT THEM UP instead. And it begins with outrageous falsehoods which lead to pseudo-righteous indignation and culminates in tyrannical silencing.

As much as I can't stomach hearing the likes of the ultra-left propagandists in the 'drive-by' media (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC et. al.), I take the American avenue of rejection of their filth and vote my disagreement with them by simply tuning them out and tuning in to FOX instead.

That's not good enough for the left - they, like leftists before them and leftists elsewhere in the world today (ala Communist China, Hugo Chavez, et. al.), historically want to forcibly silence their voices for good - and in the process re-write our own First Amendment into their own image of what freedom to speak ought to mean - "speak freely, as long as you don't offend the state."

 

[lordbt]

Prior to the creation of Fox news, what did we have? Balanced, objective reporting from NBC, CBS, and ABC? Only if you believe that Brokaw, Rather and Jennings were objective. They were liberals. Fox is successful because it offers an alternative to the liberal media monopoly.

I remember when the big three were all we had to choose from, and I can remember flicking from one to another looking for a different take on the news. They were all the same. They covered the same stories and had the same liberal take on it. Its been so long since I have watched the big three networks, I can tell you who the anchors are now. I know Couric is on one of them, and I think it is CBS, but I have never once watched her. The other two, I have no idea.

 

[Jase]

Well your biggest mistake is considering any of the three reporters. They are nothing of the sort.

Anderson is not a reporter? He's one of the most well respected and objective reporters in the business.