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Illuminaughty said:
I have my own theory for that question. That's just something you'd have to make your own conclusion about.
The ties are there between him and Jewish nationalism though.
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Illuminaughty
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I see no evidence that he was a Jewish nationalist. That he may have had friends who thought that way doesn't imply he agreed with them. I have friends who are Republicans for example. Doesn't mean I support the Republican party.
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I always got the impression that being Jewish was a rather incidental thing for Marx, and that he had a problem with the Jewish population identifying themselves ethno-religiously in that it was a barrier to the development to developing class consciousness among the working class.
If you actually read the Communist Manifesto (as you claim you have), you would recall the bit about how the working class has no country or nation.
I have no idea where you're getting these ideas that he was a Jewish nationalist.
If you actually read the Communist Manifesto (as you claim you have), you would recall the bit about how the working class has no country or nation.
I have no idea where you're getting these ideas that he was a Jewish nationalist.
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Same goes for Jesus. Christian thought has spawned some of the most totalitarian regimes in history, such as Jean Calvins goverment in Geneva. Countless millions have been oppressed and died in the hands of the church and so called "christians".
That does not mean that the ideas of Jesus was evil. They were not. Was Jesus preached was good. And so was the teachings of Marx.
Neither Jesus or Marx can be judged on the basis of what christian churches and communist parties have practised.
I don't see how you could possibly be a christian if you don't accept the according to needs principle.
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