Kari Lake explains why she believes Biden ‘intentionally’ botched the border

[durangodawood]

Kari Lake is blatant shameless liar. I'd rather not discuss an issue, any issue, in light of her particular take.

 

[USincognito]

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee is led by the publicly avowed socialist Bernie Sanders.

He has explained numerous times that he is a democratic socialist. That is different from Marxist socialism. He's not advocating for control over the means of production. When he does, let me know.

But most communist and socialist politicians won't publicly admit to it, even while pursuing socialist policies.

Ah yes, the Phantom Communist Menace, one of Joe McCarthy's least appreciated movies.

Obama's "Obamacare" -- government controlled and financed health care -- is a classic socialist program.

That is hilarious! The roots of the ACA are Romneycare that Republican governor Mitt Romney set up in Massachusetts. It was inspired by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Having people purchase a product from private companies is the opposite of socialism.

More importantly there are numerous counties no one would describe as socialist that have universal health care like Canada, Germany and the UK (see my comments about Bernie).

FBI Chief Comey and CIA Top Spy Brennan Voted for Communists.

That literally never happened.

Obama was a protege of the communist Bill Ayers, and he was mentored by the communist Frank Marshall Davis.

Weird how he advocated not a single communist policy while running for or serving in office. He certainly hasn't advocated for any since leaving office.

But Obama claimed, like so many lying politicians, to be a Christian when he ran for president.

President Obama actually went to and continues to go to church. Your slander is laughable.

Your arguments are merely parrotings of what we get from the liberal media.

This is more fantasy. I'm stating facts. You, on the other hand, are parroting Red Scare garbage that was trite in the 60s.

Oh, and by the way, the Biden administration was dominated by former appointees and close associates of Obama, so don't feign like he does not still wield a great deal of political power!

Ah yes, the Phantom Obama Menace.

 

[WilliamLhk]

He has explained numerous times that he is a democratic socialist. That is different from Marxist socialism. He's not advocating for control over the means of production. When he does, let me know.

Governments rarely turn socialist all at once. It's generally an incremental process, such as seen in much of Europe

.The roots of the ACA are Romneycare that Republican governor Mitt Romney set up in Massachusetts. It was inspired by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Having people purchase a product from private companies is the opposite of socialism.

Not when those companies are subsidized by the federal government by means of the ACA, and the program is largely controlled by the feds. But you can call it fascism if you like. Either way, it is federal control of the vast majority of what used to be the private health industry, deny it if you will.

More importantly there are numerous counties no one would describe as socialist that have universal health care like Canada, Germany and the UK (see my comments about Bernie).

No one? What a laugh! Trudeau's Canada? Hah!

That literally never happened. (FBI Chief Comey and CIA Top Spy Brennan Voted for Communists)

CNN— A t his first polygraph test to enter the CIA, the future director had a secret.

John Brennan on Thursday recalled being asked a standard question for a top security clearance at his early CIA lie detector test: Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to overthrowing the US?

“I froze,” Brennan said during a panel discussion about diversity in the intelligence community at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference. “This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate,”... 2016/09/15

Comey: "He voted for Carter in 1980, but in ’84, “I voted for Reagan—I’d moved from Communist to whatever I am now. "

James Comey - United States Attorney - Justice Department - Nymag

Just as his terrorism and corporate-corruption cases here are heating up, United States Attorney James Comey is heading south to become John Ashcroft's deputy. What's a nice, nonpartisan prosecutor going to do in a Justice Department like that?

nymag.com

Weird how he advocated not a single communist policy while running for or serving in office. He certainly hasn't advocated for any since leaving office. ... Ah yes, the Phantom Obama Menace.

Ah yes, the classic deny-it-all. Obama, the only US president in history who bought a house and stayed in D.C. after leaving office. Must just like the weather there. The guy who said that
" “If I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in, a frontman or frontwoman, and they had an earpiece in, and I was just in my basement in my sweats, looking through the stuff, then deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking — I’d be fine with that,” Obama said. "
Obama, the one who committed to 'fundamentally transform the United States of America.'
Obama, like Biden, who campaiged to bring the country together, then once elected demonized those who opposed their policies.
Yep. He most certainly has been a menace to the civil order, and continues to be.

 

[durangodawood]

Some socialism is great.
No socialism is terrible.
Socialism-only is also terrible.

(Sorry about the slightly bloated haiku.)

 

[DaisyDay]

Obama, like Biden, who campaiged to bring the country together, then once elected demonized those who opposed their policies.
Yep. He most certainly has been a menace to the civil order, and continues to be.

When did Obama demonized "those who opposed their policies"? I don't think anyone can hold a candle to Mr. Trump on that score - except he cares for himself more than for his policies.

 

[Nithavela]

Maybe we (US,UK,) should not have destabilized the Middle East by blowing up Afghanistan and Iraq twenty years ago. This caused massive immigration that is still ongoing.

Ousting Gaddhafi also didn't help.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Governments rarely turn socialist all at once. It's generally an incremental process, such as seen in much of Europe

I cannot think of a single socialist or communist government that did not "turn socialist all at once" (i.e. have a revolution). While many countries in Europe have some "socialist" policies, in the sense that they have robust government-funded social programs for things like healthcare and education, none of them have socialist governments.

 

[USincognito]

Governments rarely turn socialist all at once. It's generally an incremental process, such as seen in much of Europe

Fascinating as many European countries have become less socialist.

Not when those companies are subsidized by the federal government by means of the ACA, and the program is largely controlled by the feds. But you can call it fascism if you like. Either way, it is federal control of the vast majority of what used to be the private health industry, deny it if you will.

I don't know about you, but my PCP is an independent physician, Anthem BC/BS is a private insurance company and my premiums are taken from my paycheck and processed by my employer. No direct government involvement. There is no federal control over the vast majority of private health care in this country.

No one? What a laugh! Trudeau's Canada? Hah!

If you think Canada is socialist, then I don't see us having a productive conversation because you're disconnected from reality.

CNN— A t his first polygraph test to enter the CIA, the future director had a secret.

John Brennan on Thursday recalled being asked a standard question for a top security clearance at his early CIA lie detector test: Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to overthrowing the US?

“I froze,” Brennan said during a panel discussion about diversity in the intelligence community at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference. “This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate,”... 2016/09/15

“I said I was neither Democratic or Republican, but it was my way, as I was going to college, of signaling my unhappiness with the system, and the need for change. I said I’m not a member of the Communist Party, so the polygrapher looked at me and said, ‘OK,’...

So in 1976 he made a protest vote and that somehow makes him a communist?

Comey: "He voted for Carter in 1980, but in ’84, “I voted for Reagan—I’d moved from Communist to whatever I am now. "

James Comey - United States Attorney - Justice Department - Nymag

Just as his terrorism and corporate-corruption cases here are heating up, United States Attorney James Comey is heading south to become John Ashcroft's deputy. What's a nice, nonpartisan prosecutor going to do in a Justice Department like that?

nymag.com

That article is the only place I can find this. Why would a Communist vote for a Democrat?

Ah yes, the classic deny-it-all. Obama, the only US president in history who bought a house and stayed in D.C. after leaving office. Must just like the weather there. The guy who said that
" “If I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in, a frontman or frontwoman, and they had an earpiece in, and I was just in my basement in my sweats, looking through the stuff, then deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking — I’d be fine with that,” Obama said. "
Obama, the one who committed to 'fundamentally transform the United States of America.'
Obama, like Biden, who campaiged to bring the country together, then once elected demonized those who opposed their policies.
Yep. He most certainly has been a menace to the civil order, and continues to be.

I read the weirdest fan fiction on CF.

 

[WilliamLhk]

I cannot think of a single socialist or communist government that did not "turn socialist all at once" (i.e. have a revolution). While many countries in Europe have some "socialist" policies, in the sense that they have robust government-funded social programs for things like healthcare and education, none of them have socialist governments.

Socialism is socialism, whether it be National Socialism (= Nazi) or "Christian" or people's or "democratic" or any other kind of socialism. It is government control of much or all of a nation's economy.

 

[WilliamLhk]

There is no federal control over the vast majority of private health care in this country.

The numbers I posted earlier about the trillion+ dollar federal subsidies belie you claim.

If you think Canada is socialist, then I don't see us having a productive conversation because you're disconnected from reality.

Right. Or else you are, as indicated by your claim above this one.

 

[MForbes]

Well, if Kari Lake said it, it's true...........................................

NOT

 

[Pommer]

Socialism is socialism, whether it be National Socialism (= Nazi) or "Christian" or people's or "democratic" or any other kind of socialism. It is government control of much or all of a nation's economy.

Funny how the government controlling the military just “seems natural” though, huh?

 

[WilliamLhk]

Funny how the government controlling the military just “seems natural” though, huh?

No central authority over a nation's military means chaos during times of war; as in, divided we fall. Satan's chief strategy.
However, our military is controlled more by the military-industrial-banking complex, to which the government is secondary.

And by the way, probably the most socialized and government-subsidized system in America is the financial industry.

 

[Pommer]

And by the way, probably the most socialized and government-subsidized system in America is the financial industry.

Which is why any legislation that affects this industry, (which apparently makes money by “moving money around”), advances at a glacial pace, if at all.

When there’s “too much” money in politics, the actual voting constituents become the stepping-stone to placate the real constituents of politicians, the donor-class.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Socialism is socialism, whether it be National Socialism (= Nazi) or "Christian" or people's or "democratic" or any other kind of socialism. It is government control of much or all of a nation's economy.

Can you name a country that fits that description and did not reach that state via violent revolution?

 

[WilliamLhk]

Which is why any legislation that affects this industry, (which apparently makes money by “moving money around”), advances at a glacial pace, if at all.

When there’s “too much” money in politics, the actual voting constituents become the stepping-stone to placate the real constituents of politicians, the donor-class.

Precisely. And it will all be coming down, even though these rich and powerful fools think they are going to obtain ultimate control.

 

[WilliamLhk]

Can you name a country that fits that description and did not reach that state via violent revolution?

Lots of them, possibly the most obvious example being Venezuela.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Lots of them, possibly the most obvious example being Venezuela.

Ok, fair enough, their revolution wasn't particularly violent (though there was violence), but it was a sudden change to socialism when Chavez took power. He was elected in 1998 and spent the 2000s nationalizing industry.

 

[USincognito]

The numbers I posted earlier about the trillion+ dollar federal subsidies belie you claim.

You posted no numbers. You made a claim, but provided no support.

Right. Or else you are, as indicated by your claim above this one.

No. I'm just going by the facts. The means of production in Canada are not controlled by the government.