Kamala Harris is trying to avoid the No. 1 issue: inflation

[Bradskii]

We have a deceptive administration. Plenty of people know the reality of grocery and rent prices no matter how the establishment machine tries to spin it.

Do you know that we have had arguments in this thread saying that even a 20% wage increase in the last 20 months meant that they were still worse off? That's simply not credible.

But anyway, how's your share portfolio? Going up or down? We should know so that we can adjust the Dow Jones.

Been any robberies in your street lately? The people who put out the national figures on crime need to know so that can adjust their numbers.

What's been the weather recently? Should we still concern ourselves with global warming if there's been a cold snap in your area?

Maybe you know someone who has been sick. The admin might want to build another hospital to cope.

Maybe there was a car accident near you last year, but this year there have been two. So I guess car accidents in the US have doubled and we need stricter laws.

 

[probinson]

You guys did pretty much the same as most other countries. Drastic action to prevent a complete economic collapse.

That's true. Pretty much the entire world implemented largely ineffective "lockdowns" that resulted in (predictable) economic problems. As I said, Trump began these foolish and ineffective policies (albeit under immense pressure from people who swore up and down that lockdowns and business closure was the only way to "slow the spread") but Biden continued them for far too long. Therefore, any economic repercussions were not as a result from COVID, but rather the ineffective, government-imposed measures wrought upon us by the "experts" that fiercely attacked anyone who dared to question them.

 

[probinson]

Can we get a graph of the past 25 years, to include the Bush and Obama admin? Inflation was pretty low during the Bush and Obama years. I miss those years.

Inflation from 2000 to 2022, yes Wolfram|Alpha sadly does not have 2024 numbers, but I like the graphs from that website a lot.

Source: US inflation rate 2000 to 2024 - Wolfram|Alpha
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Wow. That's quite a spike!

The actions taken to "slow the spread" are why you see that spike. But those actions were taken by governments and public health "experts" that should have known better. I don't give them a pass because "COVID" did it. No, they did this by implementing draconian measures that did next to nothing. They own this. Would that we had listened to more rational people like John Ioannidis who tried to warn that the response to COVID was causing this immense economic damage while simultaneously not saving lives.

 

[AlexB23]

Wow. That's quite a spike!

The actions taken to "slow the spread" are why you see that spike. But those actions were taken by governments and public health "experts" that should have known better. I don't give them a pass because "COVID" did it. No, they did this by implementing draconian measures that did next to nothing. They own this. Would that we had listened to more rational people like John Ioannidis who tried to warn that the response to COVID was causing this immense economic damage while simultaneously not saving lives.

Yeah, that was a crazy spike. Supply chain issues were part of that spike. That is why we need stuff made in the US, instead of China. But yes, staggered lock downs could have helped, instead of a total lock down.

 

[Hammster]

Yeah, that was a crazy spike. Supply chain issues were part of that spike. That is why we need stuff made in the US, instead of China. But yes, staggered lock downs could have helped, instead of a total lock down.

No lockdowns at all. That would have been best.

 

[public hermit]

No lockdowns at all. That would have been best.

Why, because more people would have died?

 

[wing2000]

What is the Trump plan to address inflation?
[Oh that's right, drill baby, drill....nm that new drilling will have zero impact on inflation]

 

[AlexB23]

No lockdowns at all. That would have been best.

A compromise solution could have been used, but hey, hindsight is 20/20, quite literally. Anyways, I have to check on the news in the UK, cos there are some massive protests going on there. Glad I do not live there as a brown man. Prayers for the UK.

 

[Hammster]

Why, because more people would have died?

Probably fewer. But certainly not more.

 

[wing2000]

Groceries and rent--think of Kamala.

I think of big corporations who continue to fleece the american consumer and investment firms who are making home ownership and affordable rent a thing of the past.

Say, what will Trump or Harris do to address the root causes?

 

[public hermit]

Probably fewer. But certainly not more.

Oh, okay. I was just checking. Love has grown cold these days, so one never knows.

 

[probinson]

A compromise solution could have been used, but hey, hindsight is 20/20.

This isn't accurate. No hindsight was needed. There were people in 2020 who were seeing 20/20 (great pun!) that the response was foolish. They were fiercely attacked and censored.

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“We’re falling into a trap of sensationalism,” Ioannidis told the documentary filmmakers interviewing him remotely on March 23 (2020) as he sat in a studio at Stanford. “We have gone into a complete panic state.”​

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The video would be viewed more than a half-million times on YouTube before it disappeared. Six weeks after it was uploaded, the footage of Ioannidis was removed by YouTube, which said the interview with one of the world’s foremost epidemiologists had violated its policies on covid-19 misinformation. Ioannidis — whose talks for TEDx, at Google and in university lecture halls have circulated online for years — said he was stunned. But he was hardly silenced.​

Ioannidis was sounding alarm bells about the "sensationalism" and "panic state" we were in as early as early as March 2020. But YouTube decided what he was saying was "misinformation". Just think about that. YouTube decided that one of the world's foremost epidemiologists was spreading "misinformation" and removed his interview. On what authority do the flunkies at YouTube think they are qualified to judge what one of the world's foremost epidemiologists has to say about a pandemic and the response to it?

Don't let anyone tell you that now we know better in hindsight. No, we knew full well when it was happening. They just chose to censor the people who didn't fall in line with the approved narrative.

 

[Hammster]

Oh, okay. I was just checking. Love has grown cold these days, so one never knows.

I love my neighbor as I love myself. And the covid restrictions were not loving.

 

[wing2000]

That's true. Pretty much the entire world implemented largely ineffective "lockdowns" that resulted in (predictable) economic problems.

....and brough supply chains to halt. Which have now recovered.
Yet, we see big corporations continuing to keep prices high. What is to be done now?

 

[probinson]

....and brough supply chains to halt.

Unnecessarily.

Which have now recovered.

Mostly.

Yet, we see big corporations continuing to keep prices high. What is to be done now?

Great question. Big corporations are certainly opportunist. Anything to raise prices. How do you get them to cut prices now? I have no idea.

I'm sure Harris has a plan. A great plan. Trump too. Just vote for the right party and all your problems will just melt away!

 

[public hermit]

I love my neighbor as I love myself. And the covid restrictions were not loving.

It's great you love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus gave a new commandment to love as he loved us. But that's probably not as helpful for the bottom line.

 

[wing2000]

I'm sure Harris has a plan. A great plan. Trump too. Just vote for the right party and all your problems will just melt away!

I don't think the POTUS can do much frankly. As long as conaumers are foolish enough to spend 6 bucks for a box of overprocess cereal, the General Mills of the world will continue to keep the prices and high and reward their investors.

 

[Hammster]

It's great you love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus gave a new commandment to love as he loved us. But that's probably not as helpful for the bottom line.

And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
— Matthew 22:39

 

[Tropical Wilds]

The inflation rate dropped from 9.1% in June2022 to 3% July2024, and this is the #1 issue? whatever....

I thought the #1 issue was illegal immigration? I guess the rightists are finally attacking on the economy because the personal attacks were not effective.

I thought it was “saving the unborn” and making sure transgender people stay in their lane.

 

[public hermit]

And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
— Matthew 22:39

This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you.
- John 15:12-14