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JWST pwns BIG BANG

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Independent researcher Stuart Talbott describes how in lieu of mounting evidence, valuable resources are spent to verify the Big Bang, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, etc. As more and more expert investigators keep coming up empty handed—the number of professional scientists who want to abandon this fruitless chase continue to grow.
 

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Independent researcher Stuart Talbott describes how in lieu of mounting evidence, valuable resources are spent to verify the Big Bang, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, etc. As more and more expert investigators keep coming up empty handed—the number of professional scientists who want to abandon this fruitless chase continue to grow.
Talbott?!!!??
Oh boy ... talk about launching a thread when one has no means to defend one's own OP!

Did you not read the Electric Universe debunked thread from several years ago:

An example of the failure of Plasma Cosmology

or the zillions of threads involving @Michael (Mozina), @sjastro, @Hans Blaster, myself and others before @Michael (Mozina) was finally booted?

I guess some people just never learn .. ho hum.
 
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valuable resources are spent to verify the Big Bang
You do not believe the universe is expanding. We are told that in the beginning God said? Do you think he was talking in a whisper? Or did He declare what was and what is?

"Remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure.'" (Isaiah 46:9-10)

God watches over His word to ensure that what He has promised comes to pass. This concept is expressed in the book of Jeremiah:

"Then the Lord said to me, 'You have seen well, for I am watching over My word to perform it.'" (Jeremiah 1:12)

This verse emphasizes God's faithfulness and commitment to fulfilling His promises. It reassures believers that God's word is reliable and that He will accomplish what He has declared.
 
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You do not believe the universe is expanding.

Is that a question, or a statement?

If a question, yes indeed I do believe the universe is expanding.

Here's how I explained it:

Well, the way I see it is like taking a balloon and blowing it up to about two feet in diameter with smoke.

Then suddenly "ballooning" out the balloon to a distance of ten miles in diameter.

The smoke (universe) will expand into the larger area until it reaches maximum disbursement.

Thus the smoke was both stretched out (to two feet) in the first place, and is also stretching out (towards maximum disbursement).

So both tenses apply: past tense and present tense.


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The JWT is revealing some amazing stuff that is making it harder and harder to maintain the standard model. Ilove how tech allows us to dicover these things about our own existence.

Its strange as I have watched as more and more evidence has built up and how scientists have been running around trying to adjust things to prop up their models and then another holes pops up and another and another.

These are interesting time. I think we are moving into a time of revelation about ourselves and existence. For years the materialist worldview has dominated what information should be allowed. But as more tech comes and more people are independently researching we are getting more information and the truth cannot be hidden anymore.

I think scientists have know this for some time but have managed to dominaate the narrative. Now I think the evidence is building for a paradigm shift which has been well overdue. Just like culturally we are seeing a shift so to will we in science.
 
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Now I think the evidence is building for a paradigm shift which has been well overdue. Just like culturally we are seeing a shift so to will we in science.

We've been expecting this for some time.

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
 
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Independent researcher Stuart Talbott describes how in lieu of mounting evidence, valuable resources are spent to verify the Big Bang, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, etc. As more and more expert investigators keep coming up empty handed—the number of professional scientists who want to abandon this fruitless chase continue to grow.

All they got to do is look to God for all the answers! God is the creator of all...
 
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scientists have been running around trying to adjust things to prop up their models and then another holes pops up and another and another.
Don't we do the same thing with the Bible? At least with theistic evolution even though we do not accept the theory of evolution we still believe that some of the evidence science presents is valid and should have a impact on our understanding of God's word. Then we have another group of people who do not listen to Jesus when he tells them to beware of the traditions. When we are told in matthew 15 9
"they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”
 
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Don't we do the same thing with the Bible? At least with theistic evolution even though we do not accept the theory of evolution we still believe that some of the evidence science presents is valid and should have a impact on our understanding of God's word. Then we have another group of people who do not listen to Jesus when he tells them to beware of the traditions. When we are told in matthew 15 9
"they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”
As your alluding to there are several aspects going on at the same time. Science works within a certain parameter and we prove that everyday like with medicine and tech or going to Mars.

But theres a limit and we have found that with QM and even in evolution and how we are finding agency has a big influence of how creatures adapt and survive. But materialism or naturalism is automatically assumed. All causes fall within the causal closure of the physical.

So in that sense science is breaching its own parameters in assuming everything is materially caused and thus is bringing in metapgysics and philosophical belief about how the world is and how we should know it (epistemics). Which rget have no science for.

But Christains primarily have faith that God has done these things. I agree that people may reject the science or change interpretations to fit the science. Your right that is the same as materialists.

But many don't. If the science supports the bible then great. This is to be expected. But depending on this is another view and not really faith.

The problem is theres so many variables. Fir one the evidence presented by science may be biased. Because they only see the material they are going to make the explanations accordingly. Or they may omit some evidence so it conforms. So using the evidence is not always the best way. They said there was no evidence for the Isrealites in Egypt during the Exodus and yet now we have evidence.

In other words Christains should not need the evidence but in the end if God word is truth then we should expect to find the evidence. But material science needs the evidence. They are desperate for it and they whole worldview is dependent on it. So if there was evidence for God or something beyond the material that would be earth shattering and, a complete paradigm shift.
 
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