Justification, Sanctification, Salvation

[Minister Monardo]

The Christian is called to a life of inhabiting life with other people.

Not quite. We are called to a life with other believers.
This is not the same as the love of neighbor that fulfills
the Law.
Romans 13:10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
"Doing no harm" falls well short of abiding in Christ,
where we are called to a higher law of love.
John 15:
12 This is My commandment, that you love one another
as I have loved you.
13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down
one’s life for his friends.(in Christ?)

 

[BNR32FAN]

What is the difference and why it matters. Justification. Sanctification and Salvation. Each is distinctive,what is the difference? Explain.

Justification means being declared righteous by God, only happens to those who have received Christ’s atonement.

Sanctification is the process by which we adhere to the will of God.

Salvation is being saved from the lake of fire.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Why is the use of the word abide causing you so much unnecessary stress here?

-CryptoLutheran

The word “abide” means to dwell, stay, remain, or continue.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Ephesians 2:
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, by grace ye are saved,
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Believers abide in Christ together.
Would Abide With One another IN Christ be more acceptable?

John 15:6 says that some will not abide in Christ.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The word “abide” means to dwell, stay, remain, or continue.

I know. But I'm not seeing the problem.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Clare73]

Why is the use of the word abide causing you so much unnecessary stress here?

-CryptoLutheran

Why does the use of Three Gods cause so much stress here?

Because it is the grounds for heresy.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I know. But I'm not seeing the problem.

-CryptoLutheran

I wasn’t implying anything brother just quoting the definition of the word because there seemed to be much debate about the word.

 

[Clare73]

I know. But I'm not seeing the problem.

-CryptoLutheran

And that's the problem.

More acquaintance with church history would help.

 

[FineLinen]

Justification means being declared righteous by God, only happens to those who have received Christ’s atonement.

Sanctification is the process by which we adhere to the will of God.

Salvation is being saved from the lake of fire.

Sanctification is indeed a process of coming into at-one-ment with our glorious Father.

The identical segment of humanity constituted sinners in Adam1 are the many/polus constituted righteous in the Last Adam, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Salvation is not being saved from only, salvation is being absorbed into Him by His love & grace.

The Lake of Theion, rooted in Divinity, completes ABBA'S work on the natural man.

Every knee, every tongue, every dimension IN Christ Jesus

 

[Clare73]

Sanctification is indeed a process of coming into at-one-ment with our glorious Father.

The identical segment of humanity constituted sinners in Adam1
are the many/polus constituted righteous in the Last Adam, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Not according to Jesus (John 3:18).

Salvation is not being saved from only,

But that is where it has to start, and there is no salvation apart from faith in and trust on the atoning sacrifice (blood, Romans 3:25) of Jesus Christ for the remission of one's sin.

 

[FineLinen]

Not according to Jesus (John 3:18).

But that is where it has to start, and there is no salvation apart from faith in and trust on the atoning sacrifice (blood, Romans 3:25) of Jesus Christ for the remission of one's sin.

The Lord Jesus Christ is drawing all unto Himself. The draw is one of drawing, dragging off in power, and yes, impelling all into Him. Thelo is a powerful word by the One who loses nothing.

"But God still loves us with such great love. He is so rich in compassion and mercy. Even when we were dead and doomed in our many sins, he united us into the very life of Christ and saved us by his wonderful grace! He raised us up with Christ the exalted One, and we ascended with him into the glorious perfection and authority of the heavenly realm, for we are now co-seated as one with Christ! Throughout the coming ages we will be the visible display of the infinite riches of his grace and kindness, which was showered upon us in Jesus Christ. 8For by grace you have been saved by faith. Nothing you did could ever earn this salvation, for it was the love gift from God that brought us to Christ! So no one will ever be able to boast, for salvation is never a reward for good works or human striving. We have become his poetry, a re-created people that will fulfill the destiny he has given each of us, for we are joined to Jesus, the Anointed One. Even before we were born, God planned in advance our destiny and the good works we would do to fulfill it!" ~TPT

 

[FineLinen]

The Lord Jesus Christ is drawing all unto Himself. The draw is one of drawing, dragging off in power, and yes, impelling all into Him. Thelo is a powerful word by the One who loses nothing.

Source, Guide, Goal of the all/ ta panta.

"Death once held us in its grip, and by the blunder of one man, death reigned as king over humanity. But now, how much more are we held in the grip of grace and continue reigning as kings in life, enjoying our regal freedom through the gift of perfect righteousness in the one and only Jesus, the Messiah! In other words, just as condemnation came upon all people through one transgression, so through one righteous act of Jesus’ sacrifice, the perfect righteousness that makes us right with God and leads us to a victorious life is now available to all. One man’s disobedience opened the door for all humanity to become sinners. So also one man’s obedience opened the door for many to be made perfectly right with God and acceptable to him." ~TPT

 

[Clare73]

The Lord Jesus Christ is drawing all unto Himself. The draw is one of drawing, dragging off in power, and yes, impelling all into Him. Thelo is a powerful word by the One who loses nothing.

And the rest of the story. . .

Jesus also said that "no one can come to him unless the Father has enabled him." (John 6:65)
That "all that the Father gives him will come to him." (John 6:37)
And that he "shall lose none of all that the Father has given him." (John 6:39)

To be in agreement with the whole counsel of God, "all" would have to be all the elect (2 Timothy 2:10; Titus 1:1, 1 Peter 1:1; Matthew 24:22-24, Matthew 24:31).

 

[Minister Monardo]

John 15:6 says that some will not abide in Christ.

I would venture to say more than some.
Matthew 24: 12 And because lawlessness will abound,
the agape of many will grow cold.

2 Thessalonians 2:3a Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first...

Apologies to OP for going off topic.

 

[FineLinen]

Jesus also said that "no one can come to him unless the Father has enabled him." (John 6:65)
That "all that the Father gives him will come to him." (John 6:37)
And that he "shall lose none of all that the Father has given him." (John 6:39)

The Father has placed the all in His blessed hands. He loses nothing; not leftover miracle fish and bread, and most certainly, the creation for whom He is the High Priest.

"But God still loves us with such great love. He is so rich in compassion and mercy. Even when we were dead and doomed in our many sins, he united us into the very life of Christ and saved us by his wonderful grace! He raised us up with Christ the exalted One, and we ascended with him into the glorious perfection and authority of the heavenly realm, for we are now co-seated as one with Christ! Throughout the coming ages we will be the visible display of the infinite riches of his grace and kindness, which was showered upon us in Jesus Christ. 8For by grace you have been saved by faith. Nothing you did could ever earn this salvation, for it was the love gift from God that brought us to Christ! So no one will ever be able to boast, for salvation is never a reward for good works or human striving. We have become his poetry, a re-created people that will fulfill the destiny he has given each of us, for we are joined to Jesus, the Anointed One. Even before we were born, God planned in advance our destiny and the good works we would do to fulfill it!" ~TPT

 

[wendykvw]

The Father has placed the all in His blessed hands. He loses nothing; not leftover miracle fish and bread, and most certainly, the creation for whom He is the High Priest.

He loses nothing!

I like that story much better than the traditional story that God loses all He created to the wisdom of the evil one.

 

[ViaCrucis]

And that's the problem.

More acquaintance with church history would help.

Could you perhaps point me in the direction I should be looking? So far all I know is that you don't like that I used the word "abide", but you haven't provided a single reason why.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Clare73]

The Father has placed the all in His blessed hands. He loses nothing;

He loses nothing the Father gives him. (John 6:39)
Those who do not come were not given to him.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Why does the use of Three Gods cause so much stress here?

Because it is the grounds for heresy.

Yes, saying there are three Gods is heresy.

Now go on, tell me what heresy I'm committing.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[FineLinen]

He loses nothing the Father gives him. (John 6:39)
Those who do not come were not given to him.

Father's plan reaches consummation

"All things have been handed over to me by my Father". ~Matthew 11:27

Jesus Christ will take care of all the things in this world. He will redeem us and save us all!

John 3:17: "God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world be saved through Him."

God would not send Jesus to save the world if He knew before that the world could not be saved. God planned out from the beginning to save everyone and He will accomplish it through His Son, Jesus Christ.