Just one good argument.

[Q2004]

That's all I ask for. One good reason for why homosexuality is wrong or immoral.
Before you post:
No Bible passages. They carry no weight for me.
No 'Unnatural' Arguments. Homosexuality has been documented in almost all mammalian species.
No 'Family' arguments, as no one should be allowed to define what does and does not work family-wise.
No sarcasm or preaching, jabs attacks or the like.
And try to stick to the topic, so we don't get off track.
Thank you.

 

[Tangnefedd]

There is no good argument!

 

[Q2004]

There is no good argument!

I know. Let us just wait and see what they HAVE got, yes?

 

[Tangnefedd]

I cannot understand why homosexuality is such a BIG issue, particularly in the US

 

[Q2004]

I cannot understand why homosexuality is such a BIG issue, particularly in the US

The consevative Christians are drunk with power around here. It was the same way during Segregation wasn't it?

 

[sparklecat]

That's all I ask for. One good reason for why homosexuality is wrong or immoral.
Before you post:
No Bible passages. They carry no weight for me.
No 'Unnatural' Arguments. Homosexuality has been documented in almost all mammalian species.
No 'Family' arguments, as no one should be allowed to define what does and does not work family-wise.
No sarcasm or preaching, jabs attacks or the like.
And try to stick to the topic, so we don't get off track.
Thank you.

I don't think most people dispute that the reason they're arguing against homosexuality is their religious beliefs - Christians recognize usually that their arguments are based on the Bible. Where they err is in trying to make everyone else live by their beliefs that cannot be otherwise supported.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

That's all I ask for. One good reason for why homosexuality is wrong or immoral.
Before you post:
No Bible passages. They carry no weight for me.
No 'Unnatural' Arguments. Homosexuality has been documented in almost all mammalian species.
No 'Family' arguments, as no one should be allowed to define what does and does not work family-wise.
No sarcasm or preaching, jabs attacks or the like.
And try to stick to the topic, so we don't get off track.
Thank you.

Nothing like restricting the opposing view and playing judge as to what constitutes truth.
Be that as it may...

Moral:
1. involving right and wrong: relating to issues of right and wrong and to how individual people should behave
2. derived from personal conscience: based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what rules or the law says should be done
3. according to common standard of justice: regarded in terms of what is known to be right or just, as opposed to what is officially or outwardly declared to be right or just
* a moral victory.
4. encouraging goodness and decency: giving guidance on how to behave decently and honorably
5. good by accepted standards: good or right, when judged by the standards of the average person or society at large
6. able to tell right from wrong: able to distinguish right from wrong and to make decisions based on that knowledge
7. based on personal conviction: based on an inner conviction, in the absence of physical proof

Hmm... I see nothing on morality requiring scientific documentation or approval. I do see where morality is determined by individuals and/or society.

I also know that to presume something is true (in this case moral or "right") without also proving it as such, would be ignorance.
At best, the OP should presume neither right or wrong if the truth were sought. That however, did not happen here.

 

[Q2004]

Nothing like restricting the opposing view and playing judge as to what constitutes truth.
Be that as it may...

Moral:
1. involving right and wrong: relating to issues of right and wrong and to how individual people should behave
2. derived from personal conscience: based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what rules or the law says should be done
3. according to common standard of justice: regarded in terms of what is known to be right or just, as opposed to what is officially or outwardly declared to be right or just
* a moral victory.
4. encouraging goodness and decency: giving guidance on how to behave decently and honorably
5. good by accepted standards: good or right, when judged by the standards of the average person or society at large
6. able to tell right from wrong: able to distinguish right from wrong and to make decisions based on that knowledge
7. based on personal conviction: based on an inner conviction, in the absence of physical proof

Hmm... I see nothing on morality requiring scientific documentation or approval. I do see where morality is determined by individuals and/or society.

I also know that to presume something is true (in this case moral or "right") without also proving it as such, would be ignorance.
At best, the OP should presume neither right or wrong if the truth were sought. That however, did not happen here.

This is what I meant to avoid. You're murking up the argument, and keeping the lack of reasoning hidden.
Why is homosexuality wrong?

 

[wblastyn]

I don't think most people dispute that the reason they're arguing against homosexuality is their religious beliefs - Christians recognize usually that their arguments are based on the Bible. Where they err is in trying to make everyone else live by their beliefs that cannot be otherwise supported.

It seems that the reaction some Christians have to homosexuality is not because "the Bible says so" (although they claim it is). It's because they are already prejudiced to gays, then they use the Bible to justify their prejudice.

If they were against homosexuality solely because "the Bible says so", surely they would have the same reaction towards other sins as they do homoexuality. For example, gossiping is a sin in the Bible, yet there are gossipers in almost every church. But you don't see any "God hates gossipers!" banners, do you?

 

[KnowBeDo]

No Bible passages. They carry no weight for me.

No 'Unnatural' Arguments. Homosexuality has been documented in almost all mammalian species.

No sarcasm or preaching, jabs attacks or the like.

The consevative Christians are drunk with power around here. It was the same way during Segregation wasn't it?

Respectfully... You don't want people to justify their feelings using anything you disagree with.

Eating your young is also documented in almost all species. I don't think this constitutes a good argument for right -vs- wrong.

If you are going to request no jabs or attacks, then I think you should probably abide by your own rules also.

 

[Q2004]

If you are going to request no jabs or attacks, then I think you should probably abide by your own rules also.

Fair enough. I apologize.

 

[sparklecat]

It seems that the reaction some Christians have to homosexuality is not because "the Bible says so" (although they claim it is). It's because they are already prejudiced to gays, then they use the Bible to justify their prejudice.

If they were against homosexuality solely because "the Bible says so", surely they would have the same reaction towards other sins as they do homoexuality. For example, gossiping is a sin in the Bible, yet there are gossipers in almost every church. But you don't see any "God hates gossipers!" banners, do you?

It'd be rather inconvenient to make a fuss over sins you actually commit, wouldn't it?

 

[ChristianCenturion]

This is what I meant to avoid. You're murking up the argument, and keeping the lack of reasoning hidden.
Why is homosexuality wrong?

I gave one simple answer that was not addressed other than the same denial and avoidance of reciprocated responsibility during a debate/discussion.
Obviously, even one post was a waste of my time - enjoy doing what was purposed to do.

 

[invisible trousers]

FSTDT made a stellar thread a few months ago on this same topic. It eventually got to 4 pages or so (viewing at 40 posts/page) before the mods closed it.

Many anti-gays said that "the bible says so!". When pressed on that argument, they were unable to actually explain why homosexuality is bad and resorted to circular reasoning.

 

[Spinrad]

Homosexuality is wrong for the same reason Christianity is wrong: I don't like it.

 

[cheesebunny]

_______________________
l GOD HATES GOSSIPERS l
l l
l l
l l
l_______________________l
| |
| |
|_| does that help?

 

[Tangnefedd]

NO!

 

[cheesebunny]

what did I do? any way I belive people should be free to love who they want

 

[Tangnefedd]

And with a that I agree.

I would have thought that at 15 you would have had better things to do than posting on an Internet forum of this nature? At your age I would have wanted to be out with my friends.

 

[freealaska]

_______________________
l GOD HATES GOSSIPERS l
l l
l l
l l
l_______________________l
| |
| |
|_| does that help?