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Liar liar pants on fire.
Seriously AV, do you enjoy making stuff up concerning things you have absolutely no knowledge about? Discussion by the AIU had been going on for several years as to the definition of a planet and that of a minor planet. It wasn't a sudden fly by night vote excluding anyone. All AIU members know what was on the AIU's docket well before the annual meeting. There have also been some 10 annual meetings since then. If so many astronomers disagree with the vote,why hasn't it been over turned. GROW UP!
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QV please:
Was that the end of the matter?
In a word, no. Some experts immediately questioned the part of the definition about a planet clearing its orbital neighbourhood.
This is because Earth shares its cosmic turf with more than 12,000 near-Earth asteroids. Thus, some have argued that Earth, Jupiter and other planets also fail to meet the IAU's 2006 definition.
Speaking just after the vote, Prof Alan Stern, chief scientist for the New Horizons mission, called the outcome "an awful decision" and described the new definition as "internally inconsistent".
Prof Owen Gingerich of Harvard, who chaired the planet definition committee, revealed that only 10% of the 2,700 scientists who had attended the 10-day meeting were present at the Pluto vote. The low turn-out has been blamed on timing; the vote was held on the last day of the General Assembly when many participants had left or were preparing to fly out from Prague.
The debate has rumbled on ever since, on television, in the pages of books and in public talks.
Most recently, Alan Stern challenged Neil deGrasse Tyson to a debate on the matter in 2014. But the latter expert turned down the offer, stating: "I don't have opinions that I require other people to have."
The flyby of Pluto is unlikely to provide any information relevant to a change in Pluto's status. But it will bring into clear focus once more what is, and what isn't, meant by the term "planet".
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If fundamentalism is not based in knowledge, then I agree. Yet there is knowledge of the truth at the core of what is preached...it is just not always interpreted correctly.
My biggest gripe, is that there are those who "think" they "know", giving the impression that those who say they actually "know" they "know" (by direct contact with God), are a farce.
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Of course there are descenders, but after 10 more annual meetings it still stands. Majority rules.
Try to understand AV:
1. Hundreds of new objects are being discovered in our solar system. A definition is needed to distinguish between a planet and a dwarf planet.
2. The definition is made taking into consideration all objects in the solar system.
3. Pluto doesn't meet the criteria
Simply put, it Pluto qualifies as a planet, then there are a hundred other objects that qualify as well. Understand?
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Most do not "know", but are convinced in spirit, and therefore have "faith." But at the core of the "faith" there are those who do indeed "know" of what they speak, by first-hand knowledge (by direct contact with God). So, then, when some say they "know", they are merely convinced. But then, there are also those of us who actually "know."
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What majority?
Did you read the post from Laurele?
Here's an excerpt:
1. I don't consider 4% "majority" -- even if they met 100 times before.
2. She seems to be saying most of the best qualified to vote (the planetary scientists) were not present at the time.
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Like I said, all members had access to what was going to be discussed at the AIU meeting. This was not an ad hoc decision. Try getting you information from the source for once instead of dissenters, most of whom are no more qualified than yourself. If the astronomical scientific community was as upset about it as you are it would have been reversed as now. If Pluto becomes a full planet again then so do many other planetoids.
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Since we have now been through this many times...let me ask you:
If I was below the horizon, and you were on the horizon able to look over and see what was on the other side...what proof of what you see could you offer me...and what would be the real solution to the problem of me not being able to see over the horizon?
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Is it really a debate? Let those that believe their family tree includes an ape believe that. There's no proof. But when they have faith their line was a former primate so be it.
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So...I'll ask you the same question:
If I was below the horizon, and you were on the horizon able to look over and see what was on the other side...what proof of what you see could you offer me...and what would be the real solution to the problem of me not being able to see over the horizon?
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Why would I complicate it when he has not grasped the basic concept?
No...I drew him a picture...it's a very simple word problem (without math), a simple question. If he can't follow the question...he is not up to understanding the answer.
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