Just a thought

[Wednesday]

I just found this quote, I posted on my lj awhile ago and thought about posting it here.

Gay Rights

"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" - Ernest Gaines

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

Just a thought

 

[WatersMoon110]

That's a really good quote. I like it a lot.

I don't understand how anyone could dislike homosexuals (or anyone else) as a group. Maybe it's just that I was raised to see all people as just people? It's hard for me to imagine hating an entire group of people just for being born a certain way. The best I can manage is strong dislike for the KKK and Neo-Nazis.

Also, Gay Marriage should be legal. So long as no church is forced to marry any couple they don't want to (which is a right they already have), I don't see the problem.

 

[stan1980]

Another day, another gay thread.

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable in the company of 2 men holding guns.

 

[PassionFruit]

I just found this quote, I posted on my lj awhile ago and thought about posting it here.

Gay Rights

"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" - Ernest Gaines

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

Just a thought

You know what's going to happen right? Someone's going to come into the thread and press how sinful homosexuality is. Because we all know that homosexual relationship is nothing but sex.

But I like these quotes.

 

[Wednesday]

Another day, another gay thread.

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable in the company of 2 men holding guns.

ROFL, I know, I'm sorry. I just couldn't resist posting it

 

[LittleNipper]

I just found this quote, I posted on my lj awhile ago and thought about posting it here.

Gay Rights

"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" - Ernest Gaines

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

Just a thought

I was very comfortable as a child and adolescent to put my arm around another guys shoulders. I see nothing wrong with that now, except it can be misconstrued by the very people who claim to be so liberal in their thinking.... It would seem that the "gay" movement ruined the picture forever just as it destroyed the word "gay" forever. And no, I don't think good decent people are comfortable with guys walking around with guns. They are also not comfortable with blantant sexual displays

 

[TheManeki]

I was very comfortable as a child and adolescent to put my arm around another guys shoulders. I see nothing wrong with that now, except it can be misconstrued by the very people who claim to be so liberal in their thinking.... It would seem that the "gay" movement ruined the picture forever just as it destroyed the word "gay" forever. And no, I don't think good decent people are comfortable with guys walking around with guns. They are also not comfortable with blantant sexual displays

You know, if homosexuality was destigmatized in the US (and homosexual marriages were allowed), then a man putting his arm around another man wouldn't be misconstrued as wink-wink-nudge-nudge "gay." For example, I can put my arm around a woman and not have people think I'm either wanting to have sex with her or am having sex with her -- there's no stigma to it.

Or you could move to Europe, where it is already culturally acceptable for men to do things like that.

 

[Wednesday]

Sure, but I don't feel uncomfortable giving cuddles to my girlfriends, while being completely straight. Why should you. This complex you have created for yourself. You think if you show affection to another man, you will look gay. This is sad.

 

[LittleNipper]

You know, if homosexuality was destigmatized in the US (and homosexual marriages were allowed), then a man putting his arm around another man wouldn't be misconstrued as wink-wink-nudge-nudge "gay." For example, I can put my arm around a woman and not have people think I'm either wanting to have sex with her or am having sex with her -- there's no stigma to it.

Or you could move to Europe, where it is already culturally acceptable for men to do things like that.

They did it in both Italy and France well before homosexuals dreamed of marriage. I see no logical reason to make marriage anything but between a man and a woman, as a husband and wife ----- what families are procreated from. Marriage is not about making friends or sex pals. Marriage is about the family unit and the desire to have children.

 

[cantata]

They are also not comfortable with blantant sexual displays

Since when has holding hands been a blantant [sic] sexual display?

 

[cantata]

It would seem that the "gay" movement ruined the picture forever just as it destroyed the word "gay" forever.

You mean like the word "Christian" has been destroyed forever by people who insist on using it to describe themselves even though they display very few of the qualities of Christ?

Language evolves. Get over it.

 

[keith99]

I was very comfortable as a child and adolescent to put my arm around another guys shoulders. I see nothing wrong with that now, except it can be misconstrued by the very people who claim to be so liberal in their thinking.... It would seem that the "gay" movement ruined the picture forever just as it destroyed the word "gay" forever. And no, I don't think good decent people are comfortable with guys walking around with guns. They are also not comfortable with blantant sexual displays

No it isn't gays who ruined things, it is homophobs. It isn't gays who assume any expression of affection between men indicates sexual attraction any more than a normal man would assume just because a woman is polite to him that she has the hots for him.

What I find really funny is because I have walked some different paths I've ended up in 3 different environemnts where it is acceptable for men to hug. The gay community. (For the record, I'm Het yet would be upset if not greeted by may gay friends, male or female with at least a hug). Many evangelical Churches and finally Rugby players, at least with teammates. And funniest of all is there is almost no crossover between these 3 groups.

 

[JGG]

Since when has holding hands been a blantant [sic] sexual display?

Ever since Jamie-Lynn Spears got pregnant by holding hands with her boyfriend.

That is how it happened, right?

 

[cantata]

Ever since Jamie-Lynn Spears got pregnant by holding hands with her boyfriend.

That is how it happened, right?

Indubitably!

 

[TheManeki]

They did it in both Italy and France well before homosexuals dreamed of marriage.

They still do it in Europe, but then again Europe doesn't seem to share as many of America's sexual hangups, and are more tolerant of homosexuality in general. This supports my point that if homosexuality was no longer stigmatized, you'd be free to put your arm around a male friend without being teased.

LN, you are trying to have it both ways -- the crusade against homosexuality spilled over and made some traditional ways of men showing men affection to be ridiculed for "looking gay." You'll have to decide which you want more -- gays to be condemned, or you to be able to put an arm over your friend's shoulder and not be teased. Your call.

 

[JGG]

They still do it in Europe, but then again Europe doesn't seem to share as many of America's sexual hangups, and are more tolerant of homosexuality in general.

I might point out that I first decided America was sexually repressed when a particular video game in which one was supposed to assasinate politicians, smuggle drugs, steal cars, murder prostitutes, and generally cause mayhem, death, and destruction in an American city was considered more or less fine, until it was found that there was hidden, barely accessable, sexual content in the game...then parents got upset and said the game was immoral.

Sorry, I still chuckle, and roll my eyes over that.

 

[TheManeki]

I might point out that I first decided America was sexually repressed when a particular video game in which one was supposed to assasinate politicians, smuggle drugs, steal cars, murder prostitutes, and generally cause mayhem, death, and destruction in an American city was considered more or less fine, until it was found that there was hidden, barely accessable, sexual content in the game...then parents got upset and said the game was immoral.

Sorry, I still chuckle, and roll my eyes over that.

It took you that long?

 

[JGG]

It took you that long?

I'm Canadian. We're naive in the ways of the world. Actually, when I was younger I spent a summer in Sweden, and I was amazed to find that when they put American movies on TV they took the violence out, and left the sex in. But that's Sweden for you, they use half naked women to sell butter.

 

[Maren]

I was very comfortable as a child and adolescent to put my arm around another guys shoulders. I see nothing wrong with that now, except it can be misconstrued by the very people who claim to be so liberal in their thinking.... It would seem that the "gay" movement ruined the picture forever just as it destroyed the word "gay" forever. And no, I don't think good decent people are comfortable with guys walking around with guns. They are also not comfortable with blantant sexual displays

Sorry LN, this isn't something new and definitely not because of liberals. I went to a conservative Christian university 30 years ago, long before homosexuality became the talked about issue it is today and the same assumptions would have been made about two people of the same sex holding hands. In fact, I've heard of people since then being kicked out of this school with no more evidence than someone saw one guy holding hands with another. It's the conservatives, particularly the religious right, which misconstrues innocent actions and assumes people to be gay.

 

[LittleNipper]

You mean like the word "Christian" has been destroyed forever by people who insist on using it to describe themselves even though they display very few of the qualities of Christ?

Language evolves. Get over it.

Like when JESUS through the money changer's tables over, or when JESUS called the Sadducees and Pharicees children of the devil and hypocrites, or when JESUS told the woman caught in adultary to go and SIN no more. That Christian example?

It seems to me that the ONLY acceptable Christian behavior to the general public is silence, or to fully support what one knows is evil and wrong. Sorry, I cannot agree. JESUS was hated. I don't expect better simply because I call myself a Christian.