Just a question

[GeratTzedek]

Actually there is a difference. We can afford to be highly tolerant of differences in abstract ideas. But as soon as they translate into actions, we are quite often forced into judgment. An individual can hold the view that governments are evil and that humanity is best off without them, and I may think that person to be mistaken, but I don't consider him to be a bad person. However, the moment he picks up a gun to assassinate the President is the moment I judge his action to be wrong and take whatever steps I can to stop him.

 

[Rasta]

Actually there is a difference. We can afford to be highly tolerant of differences in abstract ideas. But as soon as they translate into actions, we are quite often forced into judgment. An individual can hold the view that governments are evil and that humanity is best off without them, and I may think that person to be mistaken, but I don't consider him to be a bad person. However, the moment he picks up a gun to assassinate the President is the moment I judge his action to be wrong and take whatever steps I can to stop him.

I think I've said what I've wanted to say.

Either you get it, or you don't.

Happy debating!!

 

[svafree]

hola svafree,

we do not believe that God is a creation... He is beyond it...

i really do not think you will have much luck attempting to understand God through observation of the physical world. there is evidence of Him that can be reasoned, i think, but that is really more like chasing an imprint or a shadow. to understand Him in a fuller capacity means reading the Bible, becoming a part of the Church and accepting what He chooses to reveal to you personally.

i think a lot of Christians struggle to find an 'objective' evidence for God that appeals to the larger population that looks upon us as superstitious zealots. 'objective' is almost without fail something that excludes the bible or personal experiences and feelings (what we might consider the illumination of God through the Holy Spirit)... and without those tools it is difficult to speak the same language.

que Dios te bendiga

You say god is beyond creation. I say the earth is beyond creation for the same reason. You say life is so amazing it must have something above it. I say life is so amazing it must be on top.

 

[chestertonrules]

What good is an optic nerve without a pupil or lens?

What good is an anvil without an eardrum?

This components are useless by themselves.

If they are simply mutations, why would they survive?

 

[Crujir]

This may be of some help in this topic:

http://doesgodexist.org/Pamphlets/WhoCreatedGod.html

 

[Rasta]

If they are simply mutations, why would they survive?

Simple answer. The mutations that are usefull survive, the ones that aren't usefull don't.

If this were true, we should see many species that used to live, but now don't. . . . . . . . .