Judge orders further distribution of Expelled stopped

[AintNoMonkey]

Posted by, err....well, can't remember:

"Yoko Ono has done numerous revolutionary works such as "No. 4" which received wide critical acclaim. There are plenty of hacks in the world of art, but Yoko Ono is not one of them. It is really too bad that you are unable to understand the amazing talent exhibited in her work."

Hey, yeah, (nodding head) grreaat!

Glad you (yawn) enjoyed it.

Sounds really (zzzzzz) fantastic.......

Yeah, not since Tiny Tim has there been someone so (crosses fingers) talented.

I am just so broke up inside that I suck so much I can't appreciate the amazing talent of Yoko Ono. Yeah.......

For this post I used the quote button located at the bottom right of every post. It makes it pretty easy to remember the name of the poster to which your reply is addressed when it's slipped your mind, as well as making your post significantly easier to read and interperate for other members, who may be inclined to skip over posts that are poorly formated.

You know, just in case you were wondering.

 

[[serious]]

Interesting --- so any paper on the Leftist Movement would automatically be dismissed as "biased"?

yup, just like a paper on "feminazis" would be. Just like a paper on "evilutionist religion" would be. Just like I'd support you in calling a paper on "KJV only nutsos" biased. There are terms that are only used by those on one end of the spectrum.

 

[MoonLancer]

Moonlancer, JFYI, that's primarily a USA phenomenon. In other countries, being called 'left leaning', or 'leftist', is not a pejorative, but a matter of fact political description. Same for the word 'liberal'. In my country it is the name of one of three major parties.

the more you know*

thanks for the info.

 

[LeSabot]

Hey, yeah, (nodding head) grreaat!

Glad you (yawn) enjoyed it.

Sounds really (zzzzzz) fantastic.......

Yeah, not since Tiny Tim has there been someone so (crosses fingers) talented.

I am just so broke up inside that I suck so much I can't appreciate the amazing talent of Yoko Ono. Yeah.......

Luckily the post-modern era has ushered in an age in which art does not have to appeal to the unwashed masses. It is almost a harkening back to a time when erudition was valued over base entertainment. Funny, then, that this thread should at this point come full circle to stare into the gaping maw of anti-intellectual entertainment that was Expelled.

 

[Gawron]

It is interesting to note how your logic allows you to extrapolate this conclusion based on the fact that I stated distaste for one individual who just happened to be an 'avante garde' artist. Now that is erudition.

 

[Gawron]

"It makes it pretty easy to remember the name of the poster to which your reply is addressed when it's slipped your mind"

Satire, ANM, Satire.

 

[Assyrian]

It is interesting to note how your logic allows you to extrapolate this conclusion based on the fact that I stated distaste for one individual who just happened to be an 'avante garde' artist. Now that is erudition.

The fact you feel the need to put inverted commas around the words avante garde pretty much proves his point.

 

[Tinker Grey]

't would be nice if Gawron would learn to use quotes.

 

[AintNoMonkey]

"It makes it pretty easy to remember the name of the poster to which your reply is addressed when it's slipped your mind"

Satire, ANM, Satire.

And you obviously didn't learn anything. Why am I suprised?

 

[Vene]

"It makes it pretty easy to remember the name of the poster to which your reply is addressed when it's slipped your mind"

Satire, ANM, Satire.

For it to be satire it would have to be funny.

 

[Gawron]

Posted by Tinker Grey:

"'t would be nice if Gawron would learn to use quotes."

You can't look at this and tell I am quoting you?

Posted by ANM:

"And you obviously didn't learn anything. Why am I suprised?"

Is this concept hard for you? I quote in this manner by choice, if you can't follow it, it isn't my fault. Oh, by the way, since you missed this as well, the fact I didn't post his name was by choice. His defense of Yoko Ono, you think I took any of that seriously? My initial entry into this thread was nothing more than humor (regardless of who found it funny). You guys need to lighten up.

Posted by Assyrian:

"The fact you feel the need to put inverted commas around the words avante garde pretty much proves his point."

That he is a elitist snob? I got that right off. Hey, birds of a feather, I guess.

 

[ReverendDG]

Is this concept hard for you? I quote in this manner by choice, if you can't follow it, it isn't my fault. Oh, by the way, since you missed this as well, the fact I didn't post his name was by choice. His defense of Yoko Ono, you think I took any of that seriously? My initial entry into this thread was nothing more than humor (regardless of who found it funny). You guys need to lighten up.

is your goal to annoy people? or do you have a problem using (quote) (/quote) so people can quote you and understand your posts?

i don't think people need to lighten up, i think people see that you are nothing but a boorish jerk, and your attempt at humor is in poor taste

That he is a elitist snob? I got that right off. Hey, birds of a feather, I guess.

the only thing i see, is that you are dismissing someone who can't defend themselves and you hardly know or understand
i don't think you are racist, i just think you're a jerk who seems to have not gotten over the fact that the beatles don't exist anymore and john is dead

 

[AintNoMonkey]

Is it so damn hard for you to just use the reply box, instead of copypasta from word? If you're failing so hard at spelling and grammar that you have to resort to that, fine, but if you're not capable of then putting it in the standard format, you can expect me and probably quite a few other to skip right over your posts.

I'm sure it won't be much of a loss for anybody, considering all you've done so far is proudly display your inferiority complex as some kind of blue-collar badge of honor.

 

[Washington]

More good news.

May 21
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A New York Judge ruled to continue an injunction against Premise Media, which effectively prevents Premise, the producers of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, from further distribution. Expelled is a film about intelligent design and creationism starring Ben Stein, and is currently playing at 200 U.S. theaters. Since its April 18 debut it has received criticism from both the scientific community, which considers both pseudoscience, and film critics.

The case Lennon v Premise Media was filed by Yoko Ono, Julian Lennon, Sean Lennon, and EMI Blackwood Music, Inc. against Premise Media, C&S Production, and Rocky Mountain Pictures in United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on April 23, 2008 alleging copyright infringement concerning John Lennon's song "Imagine". Premise is being represented by Anthony Falzone of the Fair Use Project.

EMI filed its own separate lawsuit against Premise in a New York state court alleging that Premise's usage of the song is harming EMI’s ability to license “Imagine,” which has only been licensed in one film (The Killing Fields).

In court, Judge Richard Lowe, according to the Wall Street Journal, "seemed skeptical" about Falzone's arguments. Lowe asked Falzone why the film's producers did not read the lyrics to the song or flashed the lyrics on the screen. Lawyers also pointed out that Premise Media licensed all other music in the film except for Lennon's song. At the end of the hearing Lowe "decided to stay the original TRO pending his ruling, which means that “Expelled,” currently playing in theaters around the country, cannot be reproduced or otherwise distributed."
The judge promised a quick decision since the film will debut in Canada on June 6 and DVD rights must be finalized by the end of May for October distribution.
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[DeathMagus]

More good news.

In court, Judge Richard Lowe, according to the Wall Street Journal, "seemed skeptical" about Falzone's arguments. Lowe asked Falzone why the film's producers did not read the lyrics to the song or flashed the lyrics on the screen. Lawyers also pointed out that Premise Media licensed all other music in the film except for Lennon's song. At the end of the hearing Lowe "decided to stay the original TRO pending his ruling, which means that “Expelled,” currently playing in theaters around the country, cannot be reproduced or otherwise distributed."
The judge promised a quick decision since the film will debut in Canada on June 6 and DVD rights must be finalized by the end of May for October distribution.
source
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Sounds like a fair judge. On the one hand, he's looking critically at the evidence, so his mind isn't made up already, but he's also aware that the longer this drags out, the more it's unfair to Premise Media. I'm glad he's presiding.

 

[dad]

until court hearing of Yoko Ono's copyright and trademark infringement suit.

A federal judge in Manhattan has told the makers of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed that they cannot distribute the film any further, until a copyright infringement complaint is heard in court later this month.

The temporary restraining order issued April 30 does not affect existing screenings of the anti-evolution film, which uses a segment of John Lennon’s song, “Imagine,” as an example of “Darwinist” philosophy. Lennon’s heirs filed suit April 24 in US District Court in Manhattan against the producers and distributors of the film, alleging copyright and trademark infringement and requesting monetary damages and an injunction against any showing of the film in its present form.
Expelled is showing in 656 theaters nationally, and has gross box office receipts topping $6 million.

The parties involved in the suit have until May 6 (Wednesday) to produce documents supporting their cases. Premise Media and its co-defendants have until May 14 to argue against the injunction. The plaintiffs, Yoko Ono Lennon, John Lennon’s sons and his publisher, EMI Blackwood, have until May 16 to rebut. Final arguments are due May 19.
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I particularly like the monetary damages part.

This zeal against an attempted pro God film smacks of more than coincidence. I read a bit of an interview, if it is authentic, I would say it might help explain things? "Yoko: I'm a witch! Because I'm a witch! The thing is, when I wrote and produced that song in 1974, it was such an incredibly controversial song that everyone said, "Don't put it out." And it was shelved, you know. And it's interesting that now I can use that title. I can call a whole CD Yes, I'm a Witch. I think that all women are witches, in the sense that a witch is a magical being. And a wizard, which is a male version of a witch, is kind of revered, and people respect wizards. But a witch, my god, we have to burn them. It's the male chauvinistic society that we're living in for the longest time, 3,000 years or whatever. And so I just wanted to point out the fact that men and women are magical beings. We are very blessed that way, so I'm just bringing that out. Don't be scared of witches, because we are good witches, and you should appreciate our magical power." http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/40791-interview-yoko-ono ??? Could it be that simple? If so, a revolution might be in order, pronto. Get back, yoko, to where you belong. Then I notice this. Is this wrong? "Yoko Ono, John Lennon’s widow, tore pages from a Bible and passed them into a crowd in downtown New York." http://www.catholicleague.org/annualreport.php?year=1996&id=27

 

[Adivi]

This zeal against an attempted pro God film smacks of more than coincidence. I read a bit of an interview, if it is authentic, I would say it might help explain things? "Yoko: I'm a witch! Because I'm a witch! The thing is, when I wrote and produced that song in 1974, it was such an incredibly controversial song that everyone said, "Don't put it out." And it was shelved, you know. And it's interesting that now I can use that title. I can call a whole CD Yes, I'm a Witch. I think that all women are witches, in the sense that a witch is a magical being. And a wizard, which is a male version of a witch, is kind of revered, and people respect wizards. But a witch, my god, we have to burn them. It's the male chauvinistic society that we're living in for the longest time, 3,000 years or whatever. And so I just wanted to point out the fact that men and women are magical beings. We are very blessed that way, so I'm just bringing that out. Don't be scared of witches, because we are good witches, and you should appreciate our magical power." http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/40791-interview-yoko-ono ??? Could it be that simple? If so, a revolution might be in order, pronto. Get back, yoko, to where you belong. Then I notice this. Is this wrong? "Yoko Ono, John Lennon’s widow, tore pages from a Bible and passed them into a crowd in downtown New York." http://www.catholicleague.org/annualreport.php?year=1996&id=27

I'm not exactly sure what Yoko's personal beliefs have to do with this. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless of whether the person who committed it is Christian or not.

And besides, the movie isn't pro-God, it's pro-Intelligent Design, which has NOTHING TO DO AT ALL with Creationism.

 

[Washington]

I'm not exactly sure what Yoko's personal beliefs have to do with this. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless of whether the person who committed it is Christian or not.

And besides, the movie isn't pro-God, it's pro-Intelligent Design, which has NOTHING TO DO AT ALL with Creationism.

Exactly.

 

[dad]

I'm not exactly sure what Yoko's personal beliefs have to do with this. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless of whether the person who committed it is Christian or not.

And besides, the movie isn't pro-God, it's pro-Intelligent Design, which has NOTHING TO DO AT ALL with Creationism.

The movie tries to be pro God, apparently. A movie is known by it's enemies.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

The movie tries to be pro God, apparently. A movie is known by it's enemies.

So the IDiots are lying when they say they ID is not religious and the designer is not necessarily God. Thanks.