John 3:36 = Clarity

[SumTinWong]

John 3:36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ESV

One of my new favorite verses.

Whoever: The dictionary says this: "Whatever person or persons" . That means anyone.

Anyone who believes.

believes: pist-yoo'-o From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

So if anyone believes/trusts/has faith in/ the son

the Son: Jesus the Christ, quite obviously

If anyone believes/trusts/has faith in/ the son has

has: to have, i.e. to hold This is not a past tense or is it a future tense but it is an immediate tense.

Anyone believes/trusts/has faith in/ the son has/holds everlasting

eternal: without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be, everlasting

Anyone believes/trusts/has faith in/ the son has/holds eternal/everlasting life

life: life (literally or figuratively): - life (-time)

Anyone believes/trusts/has faith in/ the son has/holds eternal/everlasting life !!!
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According to our Lord in verse 3:18 and according to jonny B in 3:36, if we believe, trust, have faith in Him we already have eternal life, it is ours.

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Praise God!!!!
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[ZiSunka]

Amen!

 

[RED that's ME]

Good post

 

[Lockheed]

"Whoever" doesn't nesessarily mean "anyone", it can mean "the person who...".

 

[Lockheed]

"Whoever" doesn't necessarily mean "anyone", it can mean "the person who...".

 

[Lockheed]

I chew double-mint gum

 

[BBAS 64]

"Whoever" doesn't necessarily mean "anyone", it can mean "the person who...".

Good Day, Lockheed

I agree there is no "whosoever" in the Greek.

(ALT) "The one believing [or, trusting] in the Son has eternal life, but the one refusing to believe the Son will not see {the} life, _but_ the wrath of God abides on him."

(ASV) He that believeth on the Son hath eternal life; but he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.

(ESV) Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

(GB) Hee that beleeueth in the Sonne, hath euerlasting life, and hee that obeyeth not the Sonne, shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.

(GNT) o pisteuwn eiv ton uion exei zwhn aiwnion o de apeiqwn tw uiw ouk oyetai bthn zwhn all h orgh tou qeou menei ep auton

(HCSB) The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him.

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(KJV+) He that believeth4100 on1519 the3588 Son5207 hath2192 everlasting166 life:2222 and1161 he that believeth544 not the3588 Son5207 shall not3756 see3700 life;2222 but235 the3588 wrath3709 of God2316 abideth3306 on1909 him.846

(KJVA) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

(NASB) "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who (58) does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

(RSVA) He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.

(YLT) he who is believing in the Son, hath life age-during; and he who is not believing the Son, shall not see life, but the wrath of God doth remain upon him.'



To be the "whosoever" one must be doing the "believing".

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[Matthan]

Just look at that beautiful verse! It is a clear promise from God. Read it! Believe it! Believe in Him. And, there is suddenly absolutely nothing that can ever prevent you from eternal happiness with God!

Nuff said!

Matthan

 

[Lockheed]

...there is suddenly absolutely nothing that can ever prevent you from eternal happiness with God!

Except man's sinful nature... God has to do something first. As Jesus said: "unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

 

[SumTinWong]

"Whoever" doesn't nesessarily mean "anyone", it can mean "the person who...".

Tell me please what the difference is

 

[Gold Dragon]

Tell me please what the difference is

If there was a word there suggesting anyone, it would challenge the precious doctrine of Limited Atonement. It is important to Calvinists that not anyone can come to him, but only those God has chosen.

Fortunately, we don't know who God has chosen so in our minds, that is anyone.

 

[Iollain]

Amen GoldDragon.

 

[SumTinWong]

Thaks GD, I get where that was coming from now.

 

[SonOfThunder]

Uncle Bud, can you go onto explain the second half of that Scripture please. The obedience to me is important and I wonder how it is viewed?

thanks

James

 

[Lockheed]

Uncle Bud,

Some folks take the "whoever" in the verse to indicate that men are able to seek after God and save themselves by "choosing" Him.

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GoldDragon,

Of those whom the Father desires to save and gives to the Son, how many will be saved?

 

[SumTinWong]

Uncle Bud, can you go onto explain the second half of that Scripture please. The obedience to me is important and I wonder how it is viewed?

thanks

James

John 3:36 "The one who believes in the Son has eternal life. The one who rejectsjoh3_notes.htm#369 (Or “refuses to believe,” or “disobeys.”) the Son will not see life, but God’s wrathjoh3_notes.htm#370 remainsjoh3_notes.htm#371 on him. "

Hey buddy, long time

The first part of the text says the one who or whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. One may argue that this does not mean everybody, but the rest of the verse says "the one who rejects the Son", meaning to me anyway that some will be offered the Son, but will reject Him and remain in Gods wrath.

The word that is used here as rejects is the Greek word apeitheō
G544
ἀπειθέω
ap-i-theh'-o
From G545; to disbelieve (wilfully and perversely): - not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving.

So it seems to me that by context this is a person who is willfully reject Jesus. Does that help?

 

[SumTinWong]

Uncle Bud,

Some folks take the "whoever" in the verse to indicate that men are able to seek after God and save themselves by "choosing" Him.

Really? How odd. These people, are they Christians? I have never known a Christian that felt he could save himself by choosing Christ. I do know some including myself that have let Christ save me, by my decision to believe on Him.

 

[Gold Dragon]

GoldDragon,

Of those whom the Father desires to save and gives to the Son, how many will be saved?

All of them. As humans, we are in no position to determine who they are since we don't know who the Father has predestined to save and who he hasn't. So it could be anyone to us.

 

[Gold Dragon]

John 3:36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." ESV
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According to our Lord, and Saviour Jesus the Christ, if we believe, trust, have faith in Him we already have eternal life, it is ours.

I just re-read the context of this verse and realized that it was John the Baptist who said this line and not Jesus. The red letters in your quote are a little deceptive.

SonofThunder, I believe Johnny B is referring to the wrath of God that is for all sinners. Johnny B is reiterating the gospel message that says believing in Jesus gives us eternal life to save us from the punishment our sins deserve. Those who do not believe remain outside of a state of grace and within a state of condemnation deserving of God's wrath.

As Uncle Bud stated, the greek word for "obey" is apeitheo which has an element of belief and is translated as "believe" in some translations for this verse.

 

[SumTinWong]

Where is the egg on my face emoticon?