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Iron Lion said:
hey guys,

what does John 3:13 mean

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
I think it's the word "even" that's confusing people. It used to confused me too. When a Biblical passage says "even", it means EQUAL. So, nobody but the Son of man, which came down from heaven, had ascended up to heaven.
 
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(John 3:13) Could this be a "hint" to Nicodemus of who Jesus really was? Possibly?

(John 14:8-9) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip? he that has seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou
then, Shew us the Father?

(John 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye
believe not that "I am he", ye shall die in your sins.
* Who is "He"? (Isaiah 43:10-11, 46:4, 48:12)

Some people say Jesus never claimed to be God! Scripture seems to say He did and he
is!

(Gen 19:24) Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and
fire from the LORD out of heaven;
 
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Peter A.V.

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gusto said:
(John 3:13) Could this be a "hint" to Nicodemus of who Jesus really was? Possibly?

(John 14:8-9) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip? he that has seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou
then, Shew us the Father?

(John 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye
believe not that "I am he", ye shall die in your sins.
* Who is "He"? (Isaiah 43:10-11, 46:4, 48:12)

Some people say Jesus never claimed to be God! Scripture seems to say He did and he
is!

(Gen 19:24) Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and
fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Jesus is claiming omnipresence,another attribute of God himself.
 
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