Joe Biden Wins

[Postvieww]

Abortion is not murder. Murder is a modern-day legal term requiring an illegal killing with malice aforethought. Since abortion is legal it does not meet the definition. The ancient Israelites did not have a term that precisely fits our present-day definition of murder.

You might get away with that nonsense in a court of man but if you try that in the court of heaven you will be overruled by the Word of God. God says murder is the shedding of innocent blood. Who is more innocent than a baby in the womb. Why do you keep trying to justify this evil. Read your Bible. Do you need me to give you some scripture references since you are pressed for time?

 

[Postvieww]

I have a 403b. My employer and I both pay in and the money is invested in various funds that I have selected. I know exactly how much is in my account. I cannot collect any more than that amount.

The first person to collect Social Security paid in a total of 24.74. During her lifetime, she collected a total of $22,888.92 in Social Security benefits. That is a socialism.

Ok since the academics on this thread have established social security is evil socialism let’s look at other aspects. The stripping of constitutional rights such as freedom of assembly that is unless you are protesting and burning buildings. Censorship of freedom of expression and free speech unless you toe the liberal line (Facebook, YouTube). Liberal Governors violating their own state constitutions with unconstitutional mandates. We don’t have to stick with the socialist label we can add Marxist and communist. I could go on but you should get the point (not sure you will).

 

[Archivist]

Ok since the academics on this thread have established social security is evil socialism let’s look at other aspects. The stripping of constitutional rights such as freedom of assembly that is unless you are protesting and burning buildings.

Examples of these rights being abolished?

Censorship of freedom of expression and free speech unless you toe the liberal line (Facebook, YouTube).

Facebook and YouTube are private companies. They can limit what gets posted; that isn't a violation of your Constitutional rights.

Liberal Governors violating their own state constitutions with unconstitutional mandates. We don’t have to stick with the socialist label we can add Marxist and communist. I could go on but you should get the point (not sure you will).

During time of pandemics state governments have always taken on extra powers. That goes back to the early days of the republic.

 

[Postvieww]

Examples of these rights being abolished?

. Do you live in a cave? I didn’t use the word abolished I said stripped. The closing of churches or ridiculously low numbers allowed while ignoring massive protest gatherings. The Supreme Court did put Cuomo in his place but many rights were violated by leftist prior.

 

[Postvieww]

Facebook and YouTube are private companies. They can limit what gets posted; that isn't a violation of your Constitutional rights.

yep they are. But they have legal protection from law suits because they are supposed to be an open platform. They are acting as a publisher and should lose those protections. I would think you would have a problem with one side of the political spectrum being censored but as with most liberals censorship is ok as long as it is the conservative view.

 

[Archivist]

. Do you live in a cave? I didn’t use the word abolished I said stripped. The closing of churches or ridiculously low numbers allowed while ignoring massive protest gatherings. The Supreme Court did put Cuomo in his place but many rights were violated by leftist prior.

Are you unable to engage in polite conversation? No, I do not live in a cave. I was simply asking for examples of what you were referencing, because your initial comment could have referred to any number of things.

I would say abolished and stripped are pretty much the same, but whatever.

 

[Archivist]

yep they are. But they have legal protection from law suits because they are supposed to be an open platform. They are acting as a publisher and should lose those protections. I would think you would have a problem with one side of the political spectrum being censored but as with most liberals censorship is ok as long as it is the conservative view.

But they censor both sides of he spectrum. Photos of topless men can be posted on FB, photos of topless women cannot. Many liberals would call that discrimination but FB does it.

 

[Isilwen]

social security is evil socialism

I never said that socialism is evil. I am all for socialism as it is for the better good of the citizens. I know people in other countries and they have nothing bad to say about their healthcare or free college.

Only in America is socialism a dirty word and resisted. I say we need more!

 

[Archivist]

After the recount Biden will carry Georgia.

No widespread voter fraud was found in Georgia. In addition, the US Attorney General General has said that the Justice Department has found no widespread fraud nationally.

Other than holding elections until Trump finally wins one, what will it take to convince Trump supporters that their guy lost a fair election?

Biden to carry Georgia after second recount: state election official (msn.com)

 

[Postvieww]

No widespread voter fraud was found in Georgia.

Maybe true. No “widespread” fraud, but fraud in a few crucial counties is a fact. The same in other swing states.

 

[Postvieww]

In addition, the US Attorney General General has said that the Justice Department has found no widespread fraud nationally.

The attorney general has not conducted an in depth investigation. The msm’s investigation consisted of calling states and asking if there was “widespread” fraud and when they were told no fraud here they proceeded to tell the American people no fraud here. We need a real investigation for real facts.

 

[Postvieww]

Other than holding elections until Trump finally wins one, what will it take to convince Trump supporters that their guy lost a fair election?

No one wants elections until Trump wins. He already won and when the fraud is rooted out he will be president fairly and rightly. Stayed tuned until the Supreme Court speaks and the swearing in.

 

[Postvieww]

But they censor both sides of he spectrum. Photos of topless men can be posted on FB, photos of topless women cannot. Many liberals would call that discrimination but FB does it.

When questioned in the Senate hearing the CEO of Twitter could not think of even one example of a liberal being censored.

 

[Postvieww]

I would say abolished and stripped are pretty much the same, but whatever.

Abolished=taking by legal legislation. Stripped = taken by illegal means.

 

[Postvieww]

Why have Trump lawyers told judges that they had no evidence of voter fraud?

This was debunked in post #546

 

[Postvieww]

I have repeatedly been told where is the “ evidence of fraud “ I posted an admittedly long video of a in depth look at an actual lawsuit filed. It pointed out both strengths and weaknesses. To long to watch watch was the response. I posted a much shorter video of an actual eye witness under oath with No comment . I can only conclude very few people here really want truth most are blinded by hatred for Trump.

 

[A_Thinker]

Maybe true. No “widespread” fraud, but fraud in a few crucial counties is a fact. The same in other swing states.

No fraud has been found in the investigations carried out since the election, ... that is significant enough to change the certified results.

 

[A_Thinker]

The attorney general has not conducted an in depth investigation.

If not Trump's Attorney General, than WHO will carry out the investigation that you seek ?

 

[A_Thinker]

No one wants elections until Trump wins. He already won and when the fraud is rooted out he will be president fairly and rightly. Stayed tuned until the Supreme Court speaks and the swearing in.

Here you present your bias.

The only results that will satisfy you ... are ones that give you what you want.

See you on January 20 ...

 

[A_Thinker]

Abolished=taking by legal legislation. Stripped = taken by illegal means.

Persons can be legally "stripped" of their rights.

For instance, prisoners ...