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Joe Biden CNN town hall

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Trump was the only President in history who was criticized for actually keeping his promises.

He released his taxes and built a wall and replaced Obamacare? He grew the economy by 4% to 6% a year? He balanced the budget and eliminated the debt? He appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary?

When did these things happen?
 
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You might as well sticky this to every president in over half a century. The only difference in this dumpster fire is the size of the flames.

Trump actually succeeded in managing the dumpster fire down to a flickering flame. Biden threw gasoline on it.
 
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Trump actually succeeded in managing the dumpster fire down to a flickering flame. Biden threw gasoline on it.
This is a joke right? Trump saw a spike in border crossings and created a humanitarian crisis, while stifling legal immigration. Meanwhile he deported less, and the illegal population dropped by less than it did under Obama. And he did nothing to solve the root problems, just like previous administrations.
 
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He released his taxes and built a wall and replaced Obamacare? He grew the economy by 4% to 6% a year? He balanced the budget and eliminated the debt? He appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary?

When did these things happen?
Maybe the post was talking about Infrastructure Week?
 
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This is a joke right? Trump saw a spike in border crossings and created a humanitarian crisis, while stifling legal immigration. Meanwhile he deported less, and the illegal population dropped by less than it did under Obama. And he did nothing to solve the root problems, just like previous administrations.

We are not talking about root problems. We are talking the border. The root problems are not for us to solve.

And if you are talking immigration reform, that's not the president's job. That congress that passes immigration law.
 
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This is a joke right? Trump saw a spike in border crossings and created a humanitarian crisis, while stifling legal immigration. Meanwhile he deported less, and the illegal population dropped by less than it did under Obama. And he did nothing to solve the root problems, just like previous administrations.

Trump had it right. You have to fix the border first. Deporting people doesn't do any good if they can just come back. When you are allowing the number of people in that Biden is allowing then deporting is rather useless.
 
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Joe Biden defeated Trump and saved American democracy…Mission Accomplished. As far as we who voted for Biden concern (80 million Americans) …Joe doesn’t have to do a single thing!
Idk about having saved “American democracy”. He stopped Trump and that needed to happen but the threat to democracy is still ongoing and I don’t think this administration really takes it as seriously as they maybe should.
 
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We are not talking about root problems. We are talking the border. The root problems are not for us to solve.

And if you are talking immigration reform, that's not the president's job. That congress that passes immigration law.
When we produce a good amount of those problems, which we did, those are definitely problems for us to solve.
 
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Trump had it right. You have to fix the border first. Deporting people doesn't do any good if they can just come back. When you are allowing the number of people in that Biden is allowing then deporting is rather useless.
Trump didn't fix the border at all.
 
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Trump didn't fix the border at all.

He did a lot towards that. However the Democrats fought him every step of the way and once Bid n was in office he ended all of Trumps stuff. He was trying to fix the border.

He had it right. Fix the border first.
 
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When we produce a good amount of those problems, which we did, those are definitely problems for us to solve.

No we didn't. Those countries have had problems forever. We've been all through this on other threads. It's a favorite thing for the left to say "well we caused the problems". The truth is those problems existed before we did a thing. An honest look at history will tell you that. We got involved in some places and didn't really make matters better, but we didn't cause the problems on why people are coming here either.
 
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He did a lot towards that. However the Democrats fought him every step of the way and once Bid n was in office he ended all of Trumps stuff. He was trying to fix the border.

He had it right. Fix the border first.
About all he did was add some agents. He didn't stop crossings, he blew billions are pointless walls, some of which fell down or did literally nothing. He separated kids from their parents needlessly. He was worse than nothing.
 
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No we didn't. Those countries have had problems forever. We've been all through this on other threads. It's a favorite thing for the left to say "well we caused the problems". The truth is those problems existed before we did a thing. An honest look at history will tell you that. We got involved in some places and didn't really make matters better, but we didn't cause the problems on why people are coming here either.
Those countries had "problems forever", because we kept sabotaging them.

Here is a quick list for you:

https://www.yachana.org/teaching/resources/interventions.html
 
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About all he did was add some agents. He didn't stop crossings, he blew billions are pointless walls, some of which fell down or did literally nothing. He separated kids from their parents needlessly. He was worse than nothing.

Yeah, we all know how you leftists feel. But Trump saw an unprecedented surge that no one was prepared for. And he did something about it. Yet was criticized all day everyday for it by you guys.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/presid...mp-administration-immigration-accomplishments

And now Biden is doing nothing and less than nothing to stop the border crisis. We know the left lives and wants all those illegals here. And Biden is not doing anything to stop it.

Biden's Broken Border: A Crisis by the Numbers

https://www.fairus.org/issue/border-security/bidens-border-crisis-101

Trump did much to stem the tide. And we appreciated his efforts despite the constant opposition from the left. Don't pretend the left has much if any desire to secure the border.
 
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Yeah, we all know how you leftists feel. But Trump saw an unprecedented surge that no one was prepared for. And he did something about it. Yet was criticized all day everyday for it by you guys.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/presid...mp-administration-immigration-accomplishments

And now Biden is doing nothing and less than nothing to stop the border crisis. We know the left lives and wants all those illegals here. And Biden is not doing anything to stop it.

Biden's Broken Border: A Crisis by the Numbers

https://www.fairus.org/issue/border-security/bidens-border-crisis-101

Trump did much to stem the tide. And we appreciated his efforts despite the constant opposition from the left. Don't pretend the left has much if any desire to secure the border.
Trump saw a surge and clamped down on LEGAL immigration, making the problem even worse.

We don't love having illegals, we just don't want them to be illegal. We should open up more legal immigration to those from our hemisphere.
 
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Trump saw a surge and clamped down on LEGAL immigration, making the problem even worse.

We don't love having illegals, we just don't want them to be illegal. We should open up more legal immigration to those from our hemisphere.

Right you want everyone who wants to come here to be allowed to come here. Far too many leftists want open borders. How many times have I heard it said? "There are no illegal people."

In order to to not have them be illegals you have to do away with immigration law.
 
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