Jesus savior of the world

OzSpen said:

So the noun to accompany pantas should be ethnos in your view. According to John 3:16, God so loved the world (kosmos), the kosmos of what or whom? The world of people that 'whoever believes'.

I am NOT forced to the conclusion that all people from the time of Christ until now have heard or will hear the Gospel. I don't think it is necessary to split hairs over whether people or nations are drawn to Christ. After all, nations are made up of people.

I am not being illogical; your interpretation of what I wrote is improper.

We know from Rom 1:18ff that people are 'without excuse' before God because of the evidence from creation.

To what does 'all' refer?

Greek textual expert, Dr Bruce Metzger's, A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, made this assessment:


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What has Romans 1:18 to do with John 12:32? Paul in Romans 1:18 speaks of men's accountability to the God of nature generically. But John 12:32 speaks about Christ drawing men to himself specifically. Jesus said that he would draw all men unto himself. This assumes a knowledge of his person which nature doesn't provide. There is no relationship between the two statements.

You said that nations are made up of people. But the term "ethnos" (nations) does NOT refer to 'all' people individually. For instance, Micah 4 speaks about "all nations" walking in the name of the true God, and at the same time "all nations" walking in the name of his own god. If 'all' meant every individual, then we have a blatant contradiction. Is it saying that there will be a time when every individual will walk in the name of the true God and of his own god at the same time? That's nonsense! It means that individual people from all nations will walk in the name of the true God and of his own god at the same time. That makes sense.

John 12:32 should read, "I will draw all nations unto myself." Or to paraphrase, "I will draw [individual people] from all nations unto myself." Jesus was looking forward to a mission by which the gospel would go out to all nations of men, but not to every individual. He even said that not all the cities of Israel would hear the gospel. And they could not be drawn to Christ apart from hearing the gospel. Therefore, Christ does NOT draw every individual unto himself.