Jesus' reference to Mary

[Brennin]

God is Trinity. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except to say all three are One God?

Angels are called God too! Be sure to make room for them in your trinity!

 

[Brennin]

why, in Genesis, is it recorded:

"let Us create in our image..." ?

It might have something to do with Jesus Christ being the express image of God (the Father).

 

[Thekla]

It might have something to do with Jesus Christ being the express image of God (the Father).

we are also created in the image, yet we are not God, the Logos

 

[Brennin]

we are also created in the image, yet we are not God...

Nor is Jesus Christ, except in a qualitative sense.

 

[Catholic Christian]

Angels are called God too! Be sure to make room for them in your trinity!

Scriptual referrence please

 

[simonthezealot]

Scriptual referrence please

That was tongue in cheek...

 

[Brennin]

Scriptual referrence please

Here is a boatload of them:

http://christianforums.com/t1932584-angels-speaking-and-acting-as-god.html

 

[Catholic Christian]

Here is a boatload of them:

http://christianforums.com/t1932584-angels-speaking-and-acting-as-god.html

The link was a boatload alright: A boatload of something I won't mention here. Show me a scripture where angels are called God. That was what you asserted in post #21.

 

[Brennin]

The link was a boatload alright: A boatload of something I won't mention here. Show me a scripture where angels are called God. That was what you asserted in post #21.

Read it again. Here is an example:

Genesis 32





24

And Jacob was left alone; and a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day.

25

When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and Jacob's thigh was put out of joint as he wrestled with him.

26

Then he said, "Let me go, for the day is breaking." But Jacob said, "I will not let you go, unless you bless me."

27

And he said to him, "What is your name?" And he said, "Jacob."

28

Then he said, "Your name shall no more be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed."

29

Then Jacob asked him, "Tell me, I pray, your name." But he said, "Why is it that you ask my name?" And there he blessed him.

30

So Jacob called the name of the place Peni'el, saying, "For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life is preserved."

31

The sun rose upon him as he passed Penu'el, limping because of his thigh.



Hosea 12



4

He strove with the angel and prevailed, he wept and sought his favor. He met God at Bethel, and there God spoke with him--

5

the LORD the God of hosts, the LORD is his name:

 

[Catholic Christian]

I give up

 

[Brennin]

I give up

That's probably a good idea, since you are losing. Jacob/Israel wrestled with an angel, yet Jacob/Israel refers to seeing "God" "face to face."

 

[Thekla]

That's probably a good idea, since you are losing. Jacob/Israel wrestled with an angel, yet Jacob/Israel refers to seeing "God" "face to face."

the early Church teaching of the Angel-Logos was subsequently discussed at the 1st and 2nd (? IIRC) Ecumenical Council; not all angelic appearances, however, are this. Further, this is tied conceptually to the uncreated light of God (a teaching that is hard to make sense of with most present translations of the NT).

 

[Catholic Christian]

That's probably a good idea, since you are losing...

I didn't know it was a fight

 

[Brennin]

I didn't know it was a fight

You call yourself a crusader, no? Although, if your surname is really O'Brien, it is unfortunate that two descents of Brian Boru are crossing swords.

 

[Thekla]

You call yourself a crusader, no? Although, if your surname is really O'Brien, it is unfortunate that two descents of Brian Boru are crossing swords.

at least you're not "foster-brothers"

(poor Cuchulain)