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Here is another Stellar point for der alter.

Mark 11:10:
Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that comes in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

Luke 11:2:
And he said to them, When you pray, say, Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.


What kingdom? the Father's Halllowed be who's name? The Father's. Who came in that name? Jesus Christ


IN Truth,
Joshua
 
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Greetings Der Alter,

I am hoping you will share with me what you feel about Romans 1:20. I have only known one interpretation of that verse, and it would be in agreement with what xsimmsx said. I mean, I could look at nature and compare it to The Father in wise of being omnipotent. I know that I am nothing an neither is the earth, and both could be crushed by one solar flare of the sun. But as to what else that verse may hold, I have not heard another interpretation.

Peace,
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xsimmsx said:
Here is another Stellar point for der alter.

Mark 11:10:
Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that comes in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

Luke 11:2:
And he said to them, When you pray, say, Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

What kingdom? the Father's Halllowed be who's name? The Father's. Who came in that name? Jesus Christ

IN Truth,
Joshua

I see a lot of irrelevant dust and smoke but you still have not addressed Ex 3:15. God's name is יהוה/YHWH. The name Jesus is NOT יהוה and the name יהוה is NOT Jesus. What does "come in the name of God" mean, since David and several other people did that in the O.T.?
 
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Valid Name said:
Greetings Der Alter,

I am hoping you will share with me what you feel about Romans 1:20. I have only known one interpretation of that verse, and it would be in agreement with what xsimmsx said. I mean, I could look at nature and compare it to The Father in wise of being omnipotent. I know that I am nothing an neither is the earth, and both could be crushed by one solar flare of the sun. But as to what else that verse may hold, I have not heard another interpretation.

Peace,
Valid Name

Man knows there is a God, otherwise why would there be some kind of religion in every culture. Go to the remotest jungle village and they will have some concept of a higher being. But as I said before creation does not reveal everything there is to know about God. Nothing in creation reveals that God is omniscient, omnipotent, or omnipresent. Observing creation where animals kill and devout one another does not reveal that God is love. Here is the commentary of John Gill.
John Gill-Exposition of the Whole Bible-Rom 1:19 –

Because that which may be known of God
,.... There are some things which could not be known of God by the light of nature; as a trinity of persons in the Godhead; the knowledge of God in Christ as Mediator; the God-man and Mediator Jesus Christ; his incarnation, sufferings, death, and resurrection; the will of God to save sinners by a crucified Jesus; the several peculiar doctrines of the Gospel, particularly the resurrection of the dead, and the manner of worshipping of God with acceptance: but then there are some things which may be known of God, without a revelation. Adam had a perfect knowledge of him; and his sons, though fallen, even the very Heathens have some notion of him, as that there is a God; and by the light of nature it might be known that there is but one God, who is glorious, full of majesty, and possessed of all perfections, as that he is all powerful, wise, good and righteous: and this

is manifest in them, or "to them"; by the light that is given them: it is light by which that which may be known of God is manifest; and this is the light of nature, which every man has that comes into the world; and this is internal, it is in him, in his mind and conscience, and is communicated to him by God, and that by infusion or inspiration; see Job_32:8;
Job 32:8 But [there is] a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
for God hath showed it unto them; what may be known of him by that light; and which is assisted and may be improved by a consideration of the works of creation and Providence.
 
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Der Alter said:
I see a lot of irrelevant dust and smoke but you still have not addressed Ex 3:15. God's name is יהוה/YHWH. The name Jesus is NOT יהוה and the name יהוה is NOT Jesus. What does "come in the name of God" mean, since David and several other people did that in the O.T.?


That Name that you still don't have a pronunciation for because you honestly don't know it was a secret. For The LORD/YHWH said it was secret. Therefore you have the Title LORD in it's place.


Judges 13:18:
And the angel of the LORD said to him, Why ask you thus after my name, seeing it is secret?

Now I have a question for you. Why as christians are we demanded to do everything in the name of Jesus? What is so important about that name. ANd if it violates the rest of scripture the way you claim then why is it held higher than any other Name? And since it is higher than any other Name is it not higher than that secret name that you still don't know how to properly pronounce?

IN JESUS NAME,
Joshua
 
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Der Alter said:
Man knows there is a God, otherwise why would there be some kind of religion in every culture. Go to the remotest jungle village and they will have some concept of a higher being. But as I said before creation does not reveal everything there is to know about God. Nothing in creation reveals that God is omniscient, omnipotent, or omnipresent. Observing creation where animals kill and devout one another does not reveal that God is love. Here is the commentary of John Gill.
John Gill-Exposition of the Whole Bible-Rom 1:19 –

Because that which may be known of God
,.... There are some things which could not be known of God by the light of nature; as a trinity of persons in the Godhead; the knowledge of God in Christ as Mediator; the God-man and Mediator Jesus Christ; his incarnation, sufferings, death, and resurrection; the will of God to save sinners by a crucified Jesus; the several peculiar doctrines of the Gospel, particularly the resurrection of the dead, and the manner of worshipping of God with acceptance: but then there are some things which may be known of God, without a revelation. Adam had a perfect knowledge of him; and his sons, though fallen, even the very Heathens have some notion of him, as that there is a God; and by the light of nature it might be known that there is but one God, who is glorious, full of majesty, and possessed of all perfections, as that he is all powerful, wise, good and righteous: and this

is manifest in them, or "to them"; by the light that is given them: it is light by which that which may be known of God is manifest; and this is the light of nature, which every man has that comes into the world; and this is internal, it is in him, in his mind and conscience, and is communicated to him by God, and that by infusion or inspiration; see Job_32:8;
Job 32:8 But [there is] a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
for God hath showed it unto them; what may be known of him by that light; and which is assisted and may be improved by a consideration of the works of creation and Providence.


Well that same God inspired the writer of the Bible to write Romans 1:20 which states that the Godhead is clearly understood by the things that are made by him. So if you don't understand perhaps you were not made by him perhaps you are of your father the devil.


In Truth,
Joshua
 
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Something that I have noticed in the NT (as far as I have studied to this point) is that the Apostles did everything in the name of Jesus Christ..They baptized in His name..they healed in His name..and martyrs died for His name..I have not come accross an account yet where the Apostles did anything in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost...It appears that they did absolutely everything in the name of Christ..ALL things. (If I am incorrect in this matter I would appreciate some input from others)

..I am the Alpha and the Omega..that is the the human purpose..us for Him...We are His inheritance..not He is our inheritance..It is true that our souls will be rewarded for existing in His name and recognizing Him as our Lord and master, but it is not for our own glory..It is for the glory of God...the glory of Christ.

Was Christ the Son of God? Yes. Was Christ the son of man? Yes...but alas the verse.. I and the Father are one..(I do not have chapter or reference for this so if anyone could help me out I would greatly appreciate:) ). This was said during His time on earth..Many relate this to the Holy Spirit that lived inside Christ..Good..the more indepth aspect of this is that since God is ominpresent and omnipotent He can be at a million places at once..Jesus Christ was God manifested on earth..but this concept was not something that just popped up into the works..It was the plan from the earliest beginning unto the end...How could Christ see across time if He was not God? Simply He could not, but He recognized Phillip from underneath the fig tree. Christ was there at the very beginning of creation, and is the plan for all humankind..That would not be possible if Christ was not God..God is a Spirit..That is how Christ describes Him, and how Christ lived His life on earth..He describes Himself.

Now in the OT we see God as a jealous, and vengeful. He smites the enimes of the Jews, but also smites His own followers with judgement as well..we recognize as Christians that Christ fufilled God's purpose, and the OT lead up to the New Covenant..We are presented with a teacher..and the teacher is God..not a prophet..The full nature of God is revealed..and we say that Christ is not vengeful? Uh I believe that judgement does get poured out onto the earth and that the Lamb has full control over the seals..For what purpose? So that He recives His inheritance..and judgement...Everything in heaven is done for the purpose of Christ..Mind, heart, and soul..Father, Son, and Holy Ghost..mind, heart, and soul are not three different creatures (or personalities..there is only one personality) they are the totality of a being..they are not seperate..they are the same plan.
 
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