Jesus Held to Sola Scriptura

[The Times]

The only person who knew of the Pharisees sins was Jesus. For they were careful to clean the outside of the cup. It was the inside that was the problem.

Exactly, he had the dirt on all of them.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Jesus is emphasising a legal position to instruct a person refrain from doing what will get them in legal trouble with God. Look you are going in circles, this line of argument further supports a legal attitude when dealing with the Holy God. In this circumstance it is better to deny the lust of the eye, the temptation of the body, least you get into legal issues with God, as to whether you will be granted access to eternal life or not, based on feeding your lust and temptation or denying yourself for fear of legal implications. Look after all the fear of the law is what deters people from doing what they ought not to. Jesus lays out the law and the penalty and this again is legal talk friend.

So you don't always support sola scripture.
Look, I was raised in a fundamentalist church. I know all about sola scripture. I'm sure I followed it more resolutely than you do now.
Didn't know much in those days though

 

[stuart lawrence]

Whoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God
1john3:9

Some sola scripture

 

[The Times]

BTW
The Pharisees were jealous/ enviousof Jesus, that is why they wanted him killed, as Pilate understood.
And of course, the Pharisees didn't understand the true message contained in the letter. They only had a form of sola scripture?
The letter without the heart of the message the letter contained

No, read the versus from the attempted stoning of the woman to the scene where they wanted to stone Jesus.

13The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

Here, they are pulling him up for defending himself, in contrast to him previously defending the woman. They required an advocate for Jesus and he gave them his Father.

20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come.

Temple courts, were where the teachers of the law gathered. Now, this seems a legal tug of war and a tit for tat happening, in revenge to what he did to their other Pharisee friends.

 

[stuart lawrence]

No, read the versus from the attempted stoning of the woman to the scene where they wanted to stone Jesus.

13The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

Here, they are pulling him up for defending himself, in contrast to him previously defending the woman. They required an advocate for Jesus and he gave them his Father.

20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come.

Temple courts, were where the teachers of the law gathered. Now, this seems a legal tug of war and a tit for tat happening, in revenge to what he did to their other Pharisee friends.

Pilate knew the Pharisees wanted Christ crucified because they were envious of him

 

[stuart lawrence]

For he knew it was out of envy that they had handed Jesus over to him
Matt27:18

 

[The Times]

So you don't always support sola scripture.
Look, I was raised in a fundamentalist church. I know all about sola scripture. I'm sure I followed it more resolutely than you do now.
Didn't know much in those days though

It is to defend the faith and is good for instruction to live ones life. If I asked you do you follow your countries laws and constitution? What would you say.

No! I doubt it!

So why do you say that I don't always support sola scripture, please explain.

 

[stuart lawrence]

It is to defend the faith and is good for instruction to live ones life. If I asked you do you follow your countries laws and constitution? What would you say.

No! I doubt it!

So why do you say that I don't always support sola scripture, please explain.

Do you support sola scripture?

Sin is the transgression of the law 1john 3:4

Therefore according to the biblical definition of sin, if you observe the law you do not commit sin, if you fail to observe the law you do commit sin.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous/ justified in his sight by observing the law/ not committing sin, rather through the law we become conscious of sin
Rom 3:20

As you mentioned laws

 

[The Times]

Pilate knew the Pharisees wanted Christ crucified because they were envious of him

True, because from Pilate's none religious and secaterian view, he saw Jesus as a better legal tactition than those wanting him crucified. It just further emphasises that Jesus was the best Holy Writ keeper and interpreter and was able to be cleared by Pilate of any legal implications, yet those intending to kill him, wanted blood and they cast the repercussions on themselves and their children and childrens children and so Pilate washed his hands from any legal ramifications.

 

[The Times]

Do you support sola scripture?

Sin is the transgression of the law 1john 3:4

Therefore according to the biblical definition of sin, if you observe the law you do not commit sin, if you fail to observe the law you do commit sin.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous/ justified in his sight by observing the law/ not committing sin, rather through the law we become conscious of sin
Rom 3:20

As you mentioned laws

Jesus instructed and commanded and if people don't do what he wants them to do, they should at least be conscious that they really don't belong to him, as simple as that.

 

[stuart lawrence]

True, because from Pilate's none religious and secaterian view, he saw Jesus as a better legal tactition than those wanting him crucified. It jus took further emphasises that Jesus was the best Holy Writ keeper and interpreter and was able to be cleared by Pilate of any legal implications, yet those intending to kill him, wanted blood and they cast the repercussions on themselves and their children and childrens children and so Pilate washed his hands from any legal ramifications.

Are you in the legal profession?
Not sure how Jesus conversation with Pilate had led him to believe Jesus was a better legal tactician than those who wanted him crucified. According to Matthews account, Jesus had thus far only answered one of his questions, he hadn't said anything else.
He simply confirmed he was the king of the Jews

 

[stuart lawrence]

Jesus instructed and commanded and if people don't do what he wants them to do, they should at least be conscious that they really don't belong to him, as simple as that.

You don't understand that statement of Pauls do you. Neither did I when I adamantly followed sola scripture

 

[Steve Petersen]

Do you support sola scripture?

Sin is the transgression of the law 1john 3:4

Therefore according to the biblical definition of sin, if you observe the law you do not commit sin, if you fail to observe the law you do commit sin.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous/ justified in his sight by observing the law/ not committing sin, rather through the law we become conscious of sin
Rom 3:20

As you mentioned laws

Among the laws were the bringing of sin offerings.

 

[The Times]

Are you in the legal profession?
Not sure how Jesus conversation with Pilate had led him to believe Jesus was a better legal tactician than those who wanted him crucified. According to Matthews account, Jesus had thus far only answered one of his questions, he hasn't said anything else.
He simply confirmed he was the king of the Jews

No!

You really believe that Jesus and Pilate had one question and one response? Interesting!

Did you read the details?

14and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was inciting the people to rebellion. I have examined him in your presence and have found no basis for your charges against him. 15Neither has Herod, for he sent him back to us; as you can see, he has done nothing to deserve death.


So, you want me to believe that Pilate examined Jesus by one question and one reply and he came to the conclusion of clearing him of any legal wrong doing, right?

Sorry!

 

[stuart lawrence]

Jesus instructed and commanded and if people don't do what he wants them to do, they should at least be conscious that they really don't belong to him, as simple as that.

So do you love your enemies?
Do you not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars?

 

[The Times]

Jesus was interrogated by Pilate in front of the Pharisees. I would say the interrogation was several hours long, where all legal implications considered and ruled out by Pilate.

 

[stuart lawrence]

No!

You really believe that Jesus and Pilate had one question and one response? Interesting!

Did you read the details?

14and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was inciting the people to rebellion. I have examined him in your presence and have found no basis for your charges against him. 15Neither has Herod, for he sent him back to us; as you can see, he has done nothing to deserve death.


So, you want me to believe that Pilate examined Jesus by one question and one reply and he came to the conclusion of clearing him of any legal wrong doing, right?

Sorry!

Don't you believe sola scripture??


When he was accused by the chief priests and elders he gave no answer.
Then Pilate asked him, don't you hear this testimony that they are bringing against you?
But Jesus made NO reply, not even to a single charge
Matt27:12-14

 

[The Times]

If I didn't love and forgive my enemies, then I will have relationship problems with Jesus. It is an internalised factor in my life, that prevents me from not loving my enemies. I may speak critically and even be angry at my enemies, but internally I am destroyed if I don't forgive and forget. I thank God that I am quick to forget and forgive before the Sun goes down.

On the second one, I am constantly brought down low to empathise and be open to charity, but I don't count it as my initiative, but a result of rebuke from Jesus, who puts me in a situation to do his will. After all I need him as my wonderful counsellor to wield my heart as he pleases. Many times I witness to my family and say, did you see how I have been shamed, so that I could see the plight of others.

When I see the weak being trodden down, I am the first to stick my head out to defend them, even when it brings harm to me. I don't see this as charity though, but more an inbuilt God given trait. Though in the empathy department, I need to be motivated by Jesus by being brought to shame, so to act, otherwise I am sometimes none the wiser.

God gives strengths to all and each of us have different strengths and weakness, but as long as the spirit is willing, we become ready vessels for our Lord to labour with. Thank God we have him as our wonderful counsellor.

 

[stuart lawrence]

If I didn't love and forgive my enemies, then I will have relationship problems with Jesus. It is an internalised factor in my life, that prevents me from not loving my enemies. I may speak critically and even be angry at my enemies, but internally I am destroyed if I don't forgive and forget. I thank God that I am quick to forget and forgive before the Sun goes down.

On the second one, I am constantly brought down low to empathise and be open to charity, but I don't count it as my initiative, but a result of rebuke from Jesus, who puts me in a situation to do his will. After all I need him as my wonderful counsellor to wield my heart as he pleases. Many times I witness to my family and say, did you see how I have been shamed, so that I could see the plight of others.

When I see the weak being trodden down, I am the first to stick my head out to defend them, even when it brings harm to me. I don't see this as charity though, but more an inbuilt God given trait. Though in the empathy department, I need to be motivated by Jesus by being brought to shame, so to act, otherwise I am sometimes none the wiser.

God gives strengths to all and each of us have different strengths and weakness, but as long as the spirit is willing, we become ready vessels for our Lord to labour with. Thank God we have him as our wonderful counsellor.

You did not answer the second question. So I assume you do not obey that literal command
And if you loved your enemies you wouldn't get angry with them or be critical of them would you.
Sola scripture, remember!

 

[The Times]

Don't you believe sola scripture??


When he was accused by the chief priests and elders he gave no answer.
Then Pilate asked him, don't you hear this testimony that they are bringing against you?
But Jesus made NO reply, not even to a single charge
Matt27:12-14

Yes, that would be a good legal move. Jesus didn't need to say anything, that anything he said would have been used against him. He took his fifth amendment, so to speak. The jury was out!

In legal proceeding, there needs to be contention. Since Jesus didn't contend with the accusations, the burden of proof is on those making the accusations.