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Jesus Held to Sola Scriptura

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redleghunter

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In Galatians chapter 2, Paul rebuked Peter using the oral teaching of the gospel. Not quite sola scriptura. Jesus isn't recorded as telling his apostles to write the gospel -- he told them to share it by word of mouth, which Paul makes frequent mention of. That doesn't sound very much like Jesus taught sola scriptura to me. The Gospel of Mark wouldn't be written for another 10-20 years after Galatians.
How do we know all of the above?

We have the inspired writings. The early church theologians were convinced as well:

"We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith." (Irenaeus Against Heresies Book 3, chapter 1)
 
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That doesn't sound very much like Jesus taught sola scriptura to me.

Luke 24:
19 And He said to them, “What things?”

So they said to Him, “The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and crucified Him. 21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened. 22 Yes, and certain women of our company, who arrived at the tomb early, astonished us. 23 When they did not find His body, they came saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said He was alive.24 And certain of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said; but Him they did not see.”

25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

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44 Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” 45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And you are witnesses of these things.49 Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.”
 
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It doesn't even sound as if the Disciples relied on Sola Scriptura.
To substantiate their truth claims? Most certainly. They did so in word (TaNaKh) and power (miracles).

Acts 2 and 3 testify to such.
 
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Merely quoting scripture is not enough to make the blind see.
Yet the TaNaKh tells us Jesus would heal the blind.

Isaiah 42: New King James Version (NKJV)
42 “Behold! My Servant whom I uphold,
My Elect One in whom My soul delights!
I have put My Spirit upon Him;
He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice,
Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed He will not break,
And smoking flax He will not quench;
He will bring forth justice for truth.
4 He will not fail nor be discouraged,
Till He has established justice in the earth;
And the coastlands shall wait for His law.”

5 Thus says God the Lord,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it,
And spirit to those who walk on it:
6 “I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness,
And will hold Your hand;
I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people,
As a light to the Gentiles,
7 To open blind eyes,
To bring out prisoners from the prison,
Those who sit in darkness from the prison house.

8 I am the Lord, that is My name;
And My glory I will not give to another,
Nor My praise to carved images.
9 Behold, the former things have come to pass,
And new things I declare;
Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
 
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To substantiate their truth claims? Most certainly. They did so in word (TaNaKh) and power (miracles).

Acts 2 and 3 testify to such.

Well sure, but I don't think they were solely driven by Scriptural dictates either. They used it to back up truth, but when Gentiles came into the picture and Jesus' visitation to Peter happened that began to alter how they looked at Levitical laws, it's also pretty clear they were more driven by the Risen Christ and the Holy Spirit then beholden to Sola Scriptura.
 
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You are certainly right, he demonstrated the Law and the Prophets through God's constitutional document, the Holy Writ.
Jesus proved He spoke from TaNaKh correctly and truthfully by demonstrating the Power of God in miracles.
 
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"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." (Matthew 28:18, NRSV)

I'd say this about sums up Jesus' thoughts on sola scriptura.
 
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Well sure, but I don't think they were solely driven by Scriptural dictates either. They used it to back up truth, but when Gentiles came into the picture and Jesus' visitation to Peter happened that began to alter how they looked at Levitical laws, it's also pretty clear they were more driven by the Risen Christ and the Holy Spirit then beholden to Sola Scriptura.
If you look at the epistles the apostles used TaNaKh extensively to teach the Gospel and holy living in Christ.
 
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"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." (Matthew 28:18, NRSV)

I'd say this about sums up Jesus' thoughts on sola scriptura.
Which means His spoken Words became Holy Scriptures.

That's why the Gospel writers wrote His words down.
 
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If you look at the epistles the apostles used TaNaKh extensively to teach the Gospel and holy living in Christ.
And has been said either in this thread or in others that have spoken on Sola Scriptura. Sources of Scripture varied, some even had inspirations or quotations from books that do not appear in the Protestant OT canon. So that is a misnomer.
 
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Which means His spoken Words became Holy Scriptures.

That's why the Gospel writers wrote His words down.

Many years later.

The thread isn't "is sola scriptura a correct doctrine?", so this is completely irrelevant.
 
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They would have those that could write for them. Dictation is not unheard of in highly illiterate societies.
We assume they were in a highly illiterate society.

I don't think the history supports such. All of the Jewish men would learn their letters and have the 10 commandments written on their door posts.

Add to this almost 250 years of Hellenistic influence, and Greek the lingua franca of the Roman Empire. The Jews did business and intermingled with the Gentile cities inside their own borders.
 
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Many years later.

The thread isn't "is sola scriptura a correct doctrine?", so this is completely irrelevant.
I was just responding to the erroneous information peddling around this thread.

Now please answer :

Can you define Sola Scriptura? I ask because your answers and some from others demonstrate an incomplete understanding.
 
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We assume they were in a highly illiterate society.

I don't think the history supports such. All of the Jewish men would learn their letters and have the 10 commandments written on their door posts.

Add to this almost 250 years of Hellenistic influence, and Greek the lingua franca of the Roman Empire. The Jews did business and intermingled with the Gentile cities inside their own borders.

Jewish men yes, but that does not apply to every Disciple. Even if Koine Greek was a lingua franca, it doesn't mean that society at large was fluent in reading it. The 12 were Aramaic speakers, Paul might have spoken Greek but he was born in modern day Anatolian Turkey,which at that time was Greek speaking in the sense it was close to Greece, however, he could have also spoken Ancient Persian, we simply do not know. As for others, they could have had various languages they spoke and Koine was simply the language they used with Romans.

But yes, Aaron is correct. This is not about Sola Scriptura as a correct doctrine thread, let's get back on the thread's actual topic.
 
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But yes, Aaron is correct. This is not about Sola Scriptura as a correct doctrine thread, let's get back on the thread's actual topic.
How can one comment on if Christ applied SS if there has already been a demonstration most here have an incomplete understanding of SS?
 
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